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GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about past actions. But my understanding is she didn't create "another GNU Boot," she made a GNU Boot release of Libreboot to allow them to rebase their fork off something that wasn't from 2021. EDIT: To be clear, I'm not saying the C&D was wrong. Trademarks must be actively defended and I'm not offended that they did so. I just remain unconvinced that Leah Rowe was trying to create another GNU Boot proj…

This is highly personal, and it is pretty sad that the GNU project name is being involved in this drama that doesn't have much to do with them. They (GNU Boot) don't want her help, and I understand why they don't like her. The fact she is making more drama from it is more proof that she is not trustworthy. EDIT: I was wrong

> it is pretty sad that the GNU project name is being involved in this drama

Extra sad since Leah was one of the few high-profile people willing to publicly defend RMS, a position I really respected: https://web.archive.org/web/20210826050949/https://libreboot...

And I can't blame her for not feeling that way any more:

  [lammy@emi] curl -I https://libreboot.org/news/rms.html
  HTTP/2 301 
  date: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 04:04:13 GMT
  location: https://libreboot.org/news/gnuboot.html

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

#73
post #28

Isn't Leah the person that sold ThinkPads on behalf of Libreboot, didn't send it, then put the blame on her mental issues? Then she abandoned the project and let the contributors take over, after some time she booted them with fake accusations, banned them from their IRC channel and took over the project. The contributors complained that she didn't even have the decency of contacting them, but she was adamant of taki…

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Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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post #51

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The inability of the community to self police has driven a ton of people away, myself included.

When you've got someone with the pattern of behavior detailed in the grandparent comment in conflict with someone who appends "Defend Richard Stallman!" to all their emails including takedown notices, how can anyone think we're anything but a bunch of fools?

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

#75
Functional code is better than non-functional code. What good is libreboot if you can't use it? You're more than welcome to use the now-maintained notgnuboot.vimuser.org or libreboot censored if you hate binary blobs, and are also more than welcome to try to find hardware that doesn't have closed source blobs built in.

I love free software, and will never stop, but "Libre" is only great in a vacuum.

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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post #28

Isn't Leah the person that sold ThinkPads on behalf of Libreboot, didn't send it, then put the blame on her mental issues? Then she abandoned the project and let the contributors take over, after some time she booted them with fake accusations, banned them from their IRC channel and took over the project. The contributors complained that she didn't even have the decency of contacting them, but she was adamant of taki…

I'd like to read more about this, but I will say that https://libreboot.org/news/policy.html is right on the merits.

Wow that was a great read, thank you

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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post #27
post #9

Obviously we don't have the full context of prior communication, but the message screenshot is super passive aggressive ("just a little reminder you're not a maintainer" when obviously both parties are aware, "you're welcome to send us patches that we will review if we want to" very implying that the patches might just be ignored). It's possible the libreboot author also wasn't communicating professionally either, bu…

I have to remind myself not to read too much into such things, for three reasons that we all know, but which may bear repeating to ourselves: 1. Open source is global, and not everyone is a native speaker of English. 2. Among English speakers, not everyone has the same cultural conventions and nuances. Even within US cities, you can drive 15 minutes, and find very different conventions. And culture in Boston isn't th…

That's an essential point. At the same time the interpretation isn't completely random or unpredictable; we're all humans, with the same emotions, the same physiological expressions of them, and the same internal responses to others' emotions. If you yell at someone anywhere, you can expect a certain range of emotional responses.

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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post #6

Just use port and use SmartFirmware, a BSD-licensed IEEE-1275 Open Firmware implementation. It even includes a C to OF bytecode compiler for ease in porting drivers.

As much nostalgia as I have for my Power Mac, Open Firmware doesn't solve anything in 2023. It doesn't natively boot any OS and it doesn't solve the blob "problem".

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

#80
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was thinking it's part of the reason it never offered a cohesive desktop OS.

Are you suggesting the corporate interests want that? I think in fact the corporate interests already get 99% of everything they want and they simply don't care for a cohesive desktop OS.

It's wanted by people who want linux to become mainstream and think forcing everybody to use their personal DE of choice would be a step towards that goal. It's fine though, it's never going to happen because the whole point is that users are free to use what they want how they want. And if somehow that freedom was taken away, mainstream adoption of linux would be a pyrrhic victory anyway.
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