Mindfulness-based programs show promise in reducing psychological distress

Post by jinder » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 11:28 AM UTC

NoZebra120vClip wrote: post #69

Kbelicius wrote: post #61

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> I come from a contemplative Christian tradition, and we've adapted Mindfulness to Christocentric meditations. > Focusing first on the breath is a fundamental building block of this technique, but it is thoroughly a spiritual technique. To rob this contemplative prayer of its Christocentric nature is to eviscerate all meaning and all purpose from it as well. So you've robbed mindfulness of its "budacentric" nature a…

While I'm not a Buddhist, I'm fairly certain that the Buddha is the last guy to want to be the center of anyone's attention. Weird. Buddhist contemplative traditions predate Christianity, and arose in distinct geographic locations, so nobody's de-Buddhizing anything here. Authentic understanding of the practices doesn't need to be a sectarian monopoly. The uniquely indifferent, secular practice of "cafeteria Mindfuln…

Post by catstoic » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 11:32 AM UTC

varispeed wrote: post #19

toshk wrote: post #11

Mindfulness took one small technique out of the Buddhist system that feels rational & scientific. It kind of works. But the corpus of Buddhism is what makes it powerful. And this is hard to make palatable for the West. The main goal of buddhism is giving you meaning & joy in life despite of stress or tragedy. Very important aspects of Buddhism that make the whole much more powerful are: - Living & acting out of compa…

> Living & acting out of compassion (boddhicitta): if your main focus is other not yourself, a huge relief of worries is gone, and meaning arises naturally. Of course here articial part. You'll easily become a victim of people who exploit "caretakers". You'll become an unpaid servant. People need to look after themselves first.

Post by NoZebra120vClip » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 12:24 PM UTC

jinder wrote: post #71

NoZebra120vClip wrote: post #69

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While I'm not a Buddhist, I'm fairly certain that the Buddha is the last guy to want to be the center of anyone's attention. Weird. Buddhist contemplative traditions predate Christianity, and arose in distinct geographic locations, so nobody's de-Buddhizing anything here. Authentic understanding of the practices doesn't need to be a sectarian monopoly. The uniquely indifferent, secular practice of "cafeteria Mindfuln…

How do Christian contemplative traditions predate Buddhism if Buddhism arose in the 5th century BCE?

Post by FrustratedMonky » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 12:28 PM UTC

miroljub wrote: post #2

Mindfulness meditation may reduce stress levels, but only temporary. Instead of focusing on the source of stress and trying to solve the underlying issues, it fights the symptoms. I don't say that it doesn't "work", but one should be aware of the limitation of mindfulness practices, and look at it just as one of the tools in a tool set to fight stress, not as a holy grail, like many of its proponents preach.

Post by spaceheater » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 12:46 PM UTC