Were they aliens? Well yes, there was no US Passports recovered from the sites.
Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites
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#72In theory, maybe possible. But honest-to-god critical thinking/sincere question: given that multiple countries have had satellites, deep space observation methods, giant telescopes etc how is that alien ingress have never been noticed? Aliens couldn't have known that US/UK were the preferred destinations - countries with large surface areas like Australia, Russia, Brazil and India don't report such activities in gene…
> how is that alien ingress have never been noticed? The US and the USSR had to collaborate on filtering out UAPs from radar early warning systems so we didn't nuke each other. Two of the people testifying in front of Congress are ex military pilots noting that they saw, and logged on radar, objects. The third has stated specifically that we do have satellite data and imagery displaying UAPs. > Why is that UFOs are c…
> The US and the USSR had to collaborate on filtering out UAPs from radar early warning systems so we didn't nuke each other.
And as we know they're the only countries with radar and observation abilities.
> Two of the people testifying in front of Congress are ex military pilots noting that they saw, and logged on radar, objects.
> The third has stated specifically that we do have satellite data and imagery displaying UAPs.
This is nothing new. There's plenty of "stuff" that can get tagged as a UAP/UFO/Whatever. None of it has turned out to be aliens.
> UFO reports from the middle ages exist, both in paintings and in writings. Ship captains have reports in their logs from the 16 and 1700s. Reports from within the U.S. in the 1800s exist.
We've also got reports of dragons, krakens, bigfoot, the lochness, ghosts, psychic powers, and magic. Hell there's a couple of rather popular books talking about all sorts of phenomena like talking burning bushes, parting the sea, and walking on water.
> All arguments of the form "where is the evidence" are moot at this point, as there is a mountain of evidence.
No, it just isn't. HARD EVIDENCE does not exist. Even a mild dive into the claims shows how absurd all of these are, and often very real explanations are given, verified, and ignored by the community that wants to believe. It's got all the rigor of pizzagate and is in fact less likely to be possible.
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#73> But after more than two and half hours of testimony, it’s probably fair to say exactly what is now known that was previously unknown, is not known.
BBC with the appropriate level of snark for the continual lack of details and evidence.
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#74I don’t usually like to make evaluations like this but Grusch’s demeanor and the way he responds to questions sets off my BS detector big time. I to want to believe just as much as anyone else here, but I can’t take this guy seriously.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Glad to hear that, not like there is nothing else important happening in the US. What next, hearings on Big Foot :)
What is happening? Seriously we already know about Hunter Biden. What is happening today that wasn't happening yesterday that you think this is actually an attention distraction?
Climate Change, the heat wave in the southwest, malaria in Texas and FL, extremely high ocean temps around FL and the East Coast. Need any more ?
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#76Probably Russians testing remote-controlled drones with animals in them.
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#77From the BBC story: Rep Nancy Mace, a North Carolina Republican, tried to get Grusch to elaborate on what he knew about non-terrestrial bodies. She asks him if "biologics" were recovered from any crashed crafts. Referencing his previous media interviews, Grusch responds that "biologics came with some of these recoveries". Were they human or non-human? Mace asks. "Non-human, and that was the assessment of people with…
If this is true (huge gigantic "if"), then all information on this topic should be immediately declassified. It is unacceptable to keep the biggest discovery in the history of the human race from the public. There is no justification for it.
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#78This whole thing is just making me have less and less faith in society. There's no fucking way this is remotely true, but everywhere I look, not matter the community, there's so much "what if" nonsense that reeks of the same ignorance those people screamed about when that was the argument for COVID conspiracies. The energy required to travel through space is obscene. The difficulty of traveling through space is obsce…
You comment sound like a “know-it-all”. We don’t know what these crafts are, where they are from and how they came here. A little humble attitude is more aligned with reality: there’s so much we don’t know.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Weird with that many comments and votes that its on like page 5 of HN and this one quickly shot to front page. Maybe @dang can combine them in a hurry.
I imagine HN's algo punishes high comment/vote ratio submissions because they tend to be controversial.
It does, the superconductor thread from yesterday had the same issue.
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#80This whole thing is just making me have less and less faith in society. There's no fucking way this is remotely true, but everywhere I look, not matter the community, there's so much "what if" nonsense that reeks of the same ignorance those people screamed about when that was the argument for COVID conspiracies. The energy required to travel through space is obscene. The difficulty of traveling through space is obsce…
You comment sound like a “know-it-all”. We don’t know what these crafts are, where they are from and how they came here. A little humble attitude is more aligned with reality: there’s so much we don’t know.
My comment is based on the current understanding of physics and the odds of some creature capable of defying that being able to even be hidden.
I would love for us to find evidence of life in the universe which is why I despise this charade which takes attention away from the scientists who are actually trying to do so. But apparently SETI is in on it too or some other nonsense.