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Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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Post by wahnfrieden »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #56
anigbrowl wrote: post #48

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In the US property rights trump most other considerations, and courts are often biased in favor of property owners. Drivers frequently ignore cyclists and pedestrians, because they feel the road belongs to them, and to some extent the larger and fancier the vehicle the more carelessly they drive. Commercial drivers, who typically don't own the vehicle but can easily lose their commercial driving license, tend to be m…

Drivers of nicer vehicles actually drive better around cyclists as they are incentivized to not acquire dents and scratches in their precious. It's the hoopty drivers who DGAF about damage and are likely most ignorant of their legal obligations who are the biggest threat.

Someone hasn’t been to Detroit

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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Post by Affric »

jacquesm wrote: post #66
NotYourLawyer wrote: post #62

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I mean... mistakes get made. It shouldn't be hard to get this one reversed if that's all there is to it, but hiring a lawyer is absolutely the right way to make that happen. By all means, try to recover attorney's fees after the fact. But sticking your head in the sand and complaining about it isn't going to get you very far.

This goes well beyond mistakes, it is utterly absurd that the judge would not look at this more closely absent a defendant in a country on the other side of the planet, especially when this kind of money is involved. It's not a $50 parking ticket. Imagine yourself in their situation, having to defend a legal case in court in a place where you've never been to that has no bearing on anything you've done in your life.…

Yep.

This is fundamentally unjust and classic bully boy behaviour by American courts and terrible corporate citizens.

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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Post by anigbrowl »

javajosh wrote: post #68
anigbrowl wrote: post #49

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Habeas corpus only applies to criminal cases, and it's about the state having to justify its detention of an arrested person. You can be tried and convicted in absentia although this is quite unusual. But you see a few murder cases prosecuted against fugitives every year if the evidence is strong enough.

Well that's terrifying. People can sue you in civil court and you don't even have to be present or notified that the trial is happening and then be on the hook for millions of dollars? Am I the only one who thinks there's something wrong with that?

I'm just explaining why habeas corpus isn't the issue here. My understanding is you do have to be notified for civil suits, but the article is so poorly written it's hard to understand exactly what the legal issues were and I don't feel like spending an hour researching the case.

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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Post by gruez »

prepend wrote: post #45
Aeolun wrote: post #5

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I don’t understand what the companies hope to gain out of this aside from loads of bad publicity?

I expect they want a judgement for a specific damage, then when they can’t collect they have insurance to cover that specific amount. Without a judgement for an amount, their insurance would pay out a lesser amount.

>Without a judgement for an amount, their insurance would pay out a lesser amount.

Who in their right mind would insure Adidas (or any other internationally famous brand) for trademark infringement? You're almost guaranteed to pay out millions in "damages" per year.

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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Post by anigbrowl »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #56
anigbrowl wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the US property rights trump most other considerations, and courts are often biased in favor of property owners. Drivers frequently ignore cyclists and pedestrians, because they feel the road belongs to them, and to some extent the larger and fancier the vehicle the more carelessly they drive. Commercial drivers, who typically don't own the vehicle but can easily lose their commercial driving license, tend to be m…

Drivers of nicer vehicles actually drive better around cyclists as they are incentivized to not acquire dents and scratches in their precious. It's the hoopty drivers who DGAF about damage and are likely most ignorant of their legal obligations who are the biggest threat.

Perhaps it depends where you live. Most of the people who ignore my existence and that of pedestrian crossings seem to be driving SUVs or huge pristine clean pickups.

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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Post by wahnfrieden »

kredd wrote: post #53
Tehnix wrote: post #42

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It’s entirely possible to do this digitally and have it working seamlessly. In Denmark we have a thing called “MitID” (MyID) which is basically a government login and which you can use to sign and also login to all kinds of things that need to confirm your identity (e.g. Phone subscription, taxes, 3DS verification for Credit Card transactions, etc). It’s essentially 2FA, works by the site sending a confirmation to an…

That's the thing I don't understand about people who live in the USA and their absolute hatred towards a National ID system. It would be a political nightmare for them to even suggest anything like that. Even their "new" FedNow service is being as governmental overreach for "reasons".

Japan’s My Number is also overreach surveillance that many are protesting. Don’t pretend it’s an American thing

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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Post by ryandrake »

luag wrote: post #44
lotsofpulp wrote: post #34

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The only way this gets fixed is if enough people get put through the wringer through no fault of their own and they finally start demanding politicians to do something about it.

The politicians will probably only care when they themselves become the victims.

You can bet politicians will never feel the pain of this fraud. They are VIPs so they have a staff of assistants who "handle" these things. That and the fact that the ones that should feel the pain (banks and lenders) are campaign donors means that things will not change.

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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Post by coding123 »

It's crazy that a lot of this crap is just associates hiring paper throwers that just keep this shit going. Responding to the cases just raises a blip somewhere and it's passed onto another yet higher-level paper shuffler. But in the end, the courts just keep awarding because Shifferd-Melnap-Hamilton (fake name), a well trusted legal firm, always wins therefore should continue winning.

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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Post by gruez »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #65
tbrownaw wrote: post #47

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> very common Are there statistics on this somewhere?

Cop oversight stats largely don’t exist because it would challenge their authority

Isn't that basically conspiracy theory logic? ie. "This thing is totally true! Evidence? That doesn't exist because The Powers That Be are suppressing it!"

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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Post by coding123 »

oofoe wrote: post #57
nmfisher wrote: post #22

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Some countries/jurisdictions do exactly that, and trust me, it's a massive pain in the ass. Would you really want to visit a notary just to set up an eBay account? Because that's what you're proposing. The existing system isn't foolproof but, by and large, it works perfectly well. If the transactions in TFA truly were fraudulent, no court is going to hold her liable. The bigger problem here is a US court being happy…

Well, acktually... I just tried to set up an eBay account to buy an exhaust part. I created the account, sent the seller a message and twenty minutes later, I got a notification from eBay that I (and anyone from my household) was permanently banned because I was a "threat to the eBay community". I haven't been on eBay for ages, and as far as I know, was certainly never threatening to anyone on or off eBay. Nobody at…

The only people with working social media accounts, paypal accounts, ebay accounts are people that had them for 10 years or more. Everyone else is kicked out within a few weeks due to AI surfacing evil people.
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