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Re: The Death of Infosec Twitter

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Post by zer8k »

sylens wrote: post #33
nancyhn wrote: post #13

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The tech community in general but especially the infosec community has strong representation from the LGBTQ community. It should be no surprise that Musk’s antics would drive that community off the site before others. The fact that they are more technically competent than other Twitter sub-communities (like sports or movies) means that the initial learning curve of Mastodon was not a blocker.

I think the reason is more practical. Mastodon is distributed, user-controlled, and easily managed. You can just choose to simply not interact with privacy-adverse systems rather than being forced to use a single centralized system.

Re: The Death of Infosec Twitter

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Post by mrguyorama »

drdeca wrote: post #15
water9 wrote: post #9

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I suspect your reasoning is also motivated, though I don’t know by what. There are things I’ll give credit for. I suspect the “community notes” feature is overall beneficial (though I haven’t seen it much firsthand because I use a very outdated version of the application, which doesn’t support it.). Also, making the code for the recommendation algorithm publicly readable was very cool, and I appreciate it. The way th…

>Also, making the code for the recommendation algorithm publicly readable was very cool, and I appreciate it.

The code for the recommendation algorithm WAS NOT made publicly available, but rather just the scaffolding for interacting with the still black box ML model. There was zero informational value there (well there was a few tags that were interesting, including one intended to measure sentiment against musk's tweets specifically) and it looked familiar to anyone who has done ML in python.

Basically it's like he posted the source code for the CRM, but not the database.

Re: The Death of Infosec Twitter

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Post by mrguyorama »

water9 wrote: post #65
mewmew07 wrote: post #42

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translation: al-qaeda had a twitter account before the mediocre-man with a middle-life crisis accidentally bought it. Now the nazis have accounts there.

Translation: I only care about what my political enemy is doing will turn a blind eye everything else

Elon bought twitter with the help of the Saudis, so go ahead and tell me how helping out the family that funded 9/11 is somehow fighting al-qaeda

Re: The Death of Infosec Twitter

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Post by sangnoir »

zer8k wrote: post #71
sylens wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tech community in general but especially the infosec community has strong representation from the LGBTQ community. It should be no surprise that Musk’s antics would drive that community off the site before others. The fact that they are more technically competent than other Twitter sub-communities (like sports or movies) means that the initial learning curve of Mastodon was not a blocker.

I think the reason is more practical. Mastodon is distributed, user-controlled, and easily managed. You can just choose to simply not interact with privacy-adverse systems rather than being forced to use a single centralized system.

> I think the reason is more practical. Mastodon is distributed, user-controlled, and easily managed.

I don't think that's the reason because most of the infosec people I follow moved to a single instance (infosec.exchange)

Re: The Death of Infosec Twitter

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Post by drdeca »

water9 wrote: post #67
drdeca wrote: post #15

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I suspect your reasoning is also motivated, though I don’t know by what. There are things I’ll give credit for. I suspect the “community notes” feature is overall beneficial (though I haven’t seen it much firsthand because I use a very outdated version of the application, which doesn’t support it.). Also, making the code for the recommendation algorithm publicly readable was very cool, and I appreciate it. The way th…

It’s not a Nazi dominated hellhole like everyone exaggerating is saying it is. It’s the exact same thing as it was. you can hate Elon Musk without automatically hating everything he owns because there’s a lot more people that work there than just him it’s pretty shortsighted to condemn all those people for the actions of one billionaire

Ok, sure, I agree with the part of that first statement before the "like everyone exaggerating is saying it is". (I'm not contradicting the "like everyone [...] it is", just not endorsing it.)

I don't hate Elon Musk, and I have a generally positive (but not particularly well-informed) opinion of SpaceX and Tesla (though I'm skeptical of "Boring Company", though I'm also not informed about that one either.).

I'm just of the opinion that he made quite a few errors in running twitter (but also some upsides compared to previous status quo, not all downsides).

Re: The Death of Infosec Twitter

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Post by water9 »

mrguyorama wrote: post #73
water9 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Translation: I only care about what my political enemy is doing will turn a blind eye everything else

Elon bought twitter with the help of the Saudis, so go ahead and tell me how helping out the family that funded 9/11 is somehow fighting al-qaeda

The Saudis were already an owner of Twitter before Elon Musk. In fact they were the largest.

But if you need another reason here’s a dead simple one. All that Saudi money invested in Twitter and musk, at least isn’t going somewhere else to fuel more nefarious things.

I think everyone in the (us) could serve to take a breath, and turn things down and notch or two. We all care about our country and want the best things for it. We just disagree about how to get there and I'm willing to de-escalate when I can in hopes that reciprocity will follow and civility can regain a foothold

Re: The Death of Infosec Twitter

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Post by DANmode »

water9 wrote: post #76
mrguyorama wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon bought twitter with the help of the Saudis, so go ahead and tell me how helping out the family that funded 9/11 is somehow fighting al-qaeda

The Saudis were already an owner of Twitter before Elon Musk. In fact they were the largest. But if you need another reason here’s a dead simple one. All that Saudi money invested in Twitter and musk, at least isn’t going somewhere else to fuel more nefarious things. I think everyone in the (us) could serve to take a breath, and turn things down and notch or two. We all care about our country and want the best things…

> All that Saudi money invested in Twitter

To quote the film How High:

"A drop in the bucket, sucker!"

Re: The Death of Infosec Twitter

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Post by mayd »

entropyie wrote: post #45
throwaway290 wrote: post #39

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What I dislike about Mastodon is how people talk about "moving to Mastodon". Unlike Twitter, FB etc. you don't just "move to Mastodon"... you move to some ActivityPub server. Which one? They don't want you to know I guess? Edit: thanks for the pointers!

For those whom are curious, a lot of infosec people are now on infosec.exchange .

For those who are curious ...

Re: The Death of Infosec Twitter

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Post by yosito »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #69
throwaway290 wrote: post #39

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What I dislike about Mastodon is how people talk about "moving to Mastodon". Unlike Twitter, FB etc. you don't just "move to Mastodon"... you move to some ActivityPub server. Which one? They don't want you to know I guess? Edit: thanks for the pointers!

But they're specifically moving to Mastodon (infosec.exchange and defcon.social), which is not the same as moving to Lemmy, KBin, or PixelFed. For example, Lemmy federates with KBin, but not with Mastodon. Kbin federates both with Lemmy and Mastodon. Also, Mastodon has a Twitter-like UX, while Lemmy/Kbin have a Reddit-like UX. PixelFed has a Flickr-like UX. It makes a difference, and insisting on calling them Activit…

> Lemmy federates with KBin, but not with Mastodon

I follow several Lemmy users on Mastodon.

Re: The Death of Infosec Twitter

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Post by [deleted] »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #69
throwaway290 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I dislike about Mastodon is how people talk about "moving to Mastodon". Unlike Twitter, FB etc. you don't just "move to Mastodon"... you move to some ActivityPub server. Which one? They don't want you to know I guess? Edit: thanks for the pointers!

But they're specifically moving to Mastodon (infosec.exchange and defcon.social), which is not the same as moving to Lemmy, KBin, or PixelFed. For example, Lemmy federates with KBin, but not with Mastodon. Kbin federates both with Lemmy and Mastodon. Also, Mastodon has a Twitter-like UX, while Lemmy/Kbin have a Reddit-like UX. PixelFed has a Flickr-like UX. It makes a difference, and insisting on calling them Activit…

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