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Framework Laptop 16 pre-orders are now open

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Re: Framework Laptop 16 pre-orders are now open

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Honestly, it was much cheaper than I had assumed it would be. A pre-built "performance" version starts at $1,699 (Ryzen 7 7840HS) with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD. Compare that to the entry 16 inch MacBook Pro at $2499. The "overkill" system with a Ryzen 9 7940HS, 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD is $2099. A pseudo comparison to the 16 inch MacBook Pro with M2 Pro, 32GB RAM and a 1TB SSD is $3099. Also these systems are cheaper if do…

No compare it to the MBA 15 w 512GB SSD and 16GB RAM upgrades and the 70W charger from their educational store + $150 gift card offer. $1575 inc Cali tax

The M2 can't match the 7840HS in CPU performance though[1]. It's half as fast in multi-core benchmarks and a bit slower in single-core.

[1]: https://www.notebookcheck.net/M2-vs-R7-7840HS_14521_14948.24...

Re: Framework Laptop 16 pre-orders are now open

#75
post #3

Honestly, it was much cheaper than I had assumed it would be. A pre-built "performance" version starts at $1,699 (Ryzen 7 7840HS) with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD. Compare that to the entry 16 inch MacBook Pro at $2499. The "overkill" system with a Ryzen 9 7940HS, 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD is $2099. A pseudo comparison to the 16 inch MacBook Pro with M2 Pro, 32GB RAM and a 1TB SSD is $3099. Also these systems are cheaper if do…

Not being snarky or anything, but do you have easy access to broadband internet where you are, or do you live in a locale that prohibits VPN? It turned out more effective for me to buy a Chromebook and build a remote workstation to do actual work from, with the added benefit that I don't care if my Chromebook is lost or stolen because it doesn't store any data and costs less than a screen replacement ( I also wasn't…

Which Chromebook did you go with? And what tools (IDEs, debuggers, etc.) do you use for development?

Re: Framework Laptop 16 pre-orders are now open

#76
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Has anyone seen any benchmarks for these new AMD processors that show power per watt? I have the previous generation Intel processor, but it gets too hot too easily, and I'm thinking of upgrading to the new motherboard.

According to Notebookcheck[1], if you put a power limit on the 7940HS, it will achieve 15625 points on Cinebench multicore with an average of 66 watts. This puts it above the M2 Max in efficiency and right behind the M2 Pro. Far ahead of any Intel chip.

If you don't want to mess with software power limiting, you'll have to wait for benchmarks of the 7840U.

[1]: https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-9-7940HS-analysis-Ze...

Re: Framework Laptop 16 pre-orders are now open

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post #76
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Has anyone seen any benchmarks for these new AMD processors that show power per watt? I have the previous generation Intel processor, but it gets too hot too easily, and I'm thinking of upgrading to the new motherboard.

According to Notebookcheck[1], if you put a power limit on the 7940HS, it will achieve 15625 points on Cinebench multicore with an average of 66 watts. This puts it above the M2 Max in efficiency and right behind the M2 Pro. Far ahead of any Intel chip. If you don't want to mess with software power limiting, you'll have to wait for benchmarks of the 7840U. [1]: https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-9-7940HS-analysi…

Hmm, that's really interesting. I guess I'd need to software limit, but still, that should mean I can get good performance and low battery usage, plus low fan usage.

I might have to upgrade, the Intel processor I have right now is very annoying.

What's the difference between the HS and the U? I'm not good at specs :/

Re: Framework Laptop 16 pre-orders are now open

#78
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why they ship to Germany and not in all of the EU. Surely it's as easy as telling the courier to take it a bit farther? Maybe it's related to VAT? I can't imagine that their payment processor won't handle that for them, though.

If they pay the VAT to any EU country, they don’t need to pay it again. I often order stuff from Germany because their VAT for computer stuff is lower than here.

You need to charge the VAT of where the consumer lives. But it's a trivial thing; you just use a service for it.

Re: Framework Laptop 16 pre-orders are now open

#80
Great thing that I probably won’t buy unless my thinkpad x1 extreme 1st gen will die.

Picture wise the bezel on monitor is horribly large, and there were comments about chance of module with columnar layout on keyboard that didn’t materialize :(

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