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Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Why should I be forced to use (a recent, and thus increasingly more user-hostile version of) Big Browser in order to visit a site? There's a huge difference between "not supported" meaning "you're on your own" and "illegal".

Call it what it really is: user-agent discrimination. Don't let them dictate the software (and hardware) that we can use.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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All of this because they don't want you to download Guizmo - Dans ma ruche ( https://ssyoutube.com/en691rT/ ) Not the first time they've spammed DMCA takedowns either: https://lumendatabase.org/faceted_search?sender_name=Because... In comically French fashion, their complaints also include the same message in French just in case someone in Mountain View is more fluent in French than in English. I wonder if this is ju…

The client is French. Including a French copy of the message is entirely mundane.

The French invented the word chauvinism :) They take their language very seriously likewise. I work for a French company and even though the official language is English you're kind of a second rate citizen if you don't speak it. Or write last names in all caps or quotation marks like > :) They just are that way :P

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Any good equivalent to Newpipe for iOS? I'm using Video Lite so I only get one ad when opening the app. I'd like to have SponsorBlock like some Newpipe versions have and no ads at all.

Safari extensions vinegar and sponsorblock. Youtube in safari is a little janky compared to the app, but that’s the best I’ve found.

Vinegar is the best. It replaces hostile video players like the one on YouTube with native HTML5 elements so everything works as expected (like picture-in-picture).

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Oh neat, looks like tartube is a GUI frontend for youtube-dl.

It defaults to youtube-dlp but can be toggled back and forth with youtube-dl.

What's the difference between the dlp and dl versions? I've only ever tried dl.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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post #69

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The client is French. Including a French copy of the message is entirely mundane.

The French invented the word chauvinism :) They take their language very seriously likewise. I work for a French company and even though the official language is English you're kind of a second rate citizen if you don't speak it. Or write last names in all caps or quotation marks like > :) They just are that way :P

> Or write last names in all caps or quotation marks like > :)

Things we don't do much anymore in France.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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DMCA anti-circumvention provisions are regarding tools that circumvent effective access controls. I realize that broken encryption is considered an effective access control in this context despite it being broken, but apps like Newpipe aren't even breaking encryption, right? What aspect of the YouTube servers' behavior can be construed as an effective access control? Is there even a rudimentary secret, that never get…

>What aspect of the YouTube servers' behavior can be construed as an effective access control? Is there even a rudimentary secret My understanding is that YouTube does implement a trivial sort of DRM/encoding with a rolling cypher to the actual location of video file. This is what tools like youtube-dl implement, and what get their DCMA from the RIAA. It's supposedly very light weight in terms of DRM, and notably I d…

> YouTube does implement a trivial sort of DRM/encoding

Nope. Youtube break their streams up into a number of tiny pieces so they can adjust bandwidth dynamically extremely easily.

It's just the RIAA and friends looking for an excuse, so they've attempted (and likely will continue attempting) to make people believe that's "sort form of DRM".

Don't get fooled by their bullshit.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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It defaults to youtube-dlp but can be toggled back and forth with youtube-dl.

What's the difference between the dlp and dl versions? I've only ever tried dl.

youtube-dl is unmaintained. yt-dlp is a maintained fork

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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I just installed the app. Thanks Google.

I learned about Fdroid because of something like this. Then I learned about Bromium(which is obsolete today, but was a great browser with adblock support)

If you're looking for a Bromite successor, right now best way is to download the uazo builds direct from GitHub: https://github.com/uazo/bromite-buildtools There are some third party tools that will download the releases for you, but I'm fine to just manually pop by the repo whenever ungoogled-chromium[0] updates on my desktop.

[0] https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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NewPipe is excellent. I was disappointed that it was not available for desktop until I discovered tartube which will download video files from almost any website easily

I also recommend FreeTube, which sounds like a porn site but actually it's another open source desktop YouTube player: https://github.com/FreeTubeApp/FreeTube

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I block ads not because I'm completely anti-advert. I'm anti being-stalked-through-my-entire-life-and-having-my-details-sold-like-I'm-a-cheap-peice-of-meat, and unfortunately ATM blocking that also means blocking most online adverts. So I draw the line before sponsorblock. At least the content creators get a better cut of that than they get from YouTube monetisation & youtube can't take it away from them as easily at…

I'm completely anti advert. They declared war on civilization 20 years ago and don't deserve to be treated as anything but a parasitic cultural disease. It didn't have to be this way, but that's where they took us.

20 years ago? Advertising has corrupted every public medium since the dawn of print media, arguably even before that.

In the 19th century, it was quackery and false advertising in newspapers, making snake oil salesmen rich.

In the first half of the 20th century, advertising started using propaganda tactics to psychologically manipulate consumers, as pioneered by Edward Bernays[1], making tobacco companies rich.

Radio and television amplified their reach and power, fueling modern consumerism. People were hooked on tobacco, corn products, sugar, fast food, and a million other mass produced products. Whether the products were harmful to society was irrelevant. The spice must flow.

The internet was another major frontier, where ads could precisely target specific consumer profiles. Adtech was born to give this power to advertisers by facilitating data collection and creating the multi-billion dollar dark data broker market.

Adtech was then (ab?)used by local and foreign agents to spread propaganda, disinformation, and conduct psyops at an unprecedented scale, disrupting democratic processes, toppling governments, causing social unrest, and boosting intolerance, xenophobia and racism on a global scale to levels unseen since WWII.

And we haven't seen the worst of it yet. Once everyone has their own personal AI that is trained on the most intimate details of each personality, ads will become even more personal and manipulative. Advertisers are salivating at this opportunity, and adtech is surely experimenting with this right now.

So, no, I refuse to participate in this perverse system, and subject myself to being psychologically manipulated. Companies and creators who depend on advertising don't deserve my business, attention or respect.

[1] This man was evil beyond words. See Adam Curtis' The Century of the Self.

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