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Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Re: Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Post by DesiLurker »

hiatus wrote: post #52
DesiLurker wrote: post #44

I call BS on them being not good market fit, Apple does totally fine with mac mini. also these are just laptops w/o screen and battery. IMO the real reason may be worries around minipcs finally getting good enough that they may cannibalize higher margin PC market. BTW there are other vendors like Beelink that make semi decent tiny computers and I have one of those as my teenage kids pc,works just fine.

> Apple does totally fine with mac mini How do you know this? I personally decided against a mini when I specced one out and a MBP wound up cheaper. The pricing strategy certainly made me _feel_ like they were pushing me away from the mini.

TBH I dont own a mini but I have used it and it seems fine. online reviews are also decent if you go above baseline 8Gb. but thats targeted towards mac users which are already in higher price bracket so not too bad. plus its better if power consumption and noise level.

overall I feel that there is enough integration density in processors that the laptop form factors will be good enough for most common (& semi advanced) uses. so this seems like an odd decision to move out of that market (technically) but if you factor in business then it starts to makes sense.

Re: Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Post by arka2147483647 »

xnx wrote: post #56

I want to like these, but they hit the opposite of a sweet spot (sour spot? sore spot?): More expensive than a laptop (which also have a screen, keyboard, touchpad, speakers, etc.) and much larger than a dongle. The true "next unit of computing" now would be something like a Chromebox the size of a Chromecast.

The PC space really needs a new miniaturized case standard. The current ATX ones are too large for current components, and intel nuc is too integrated. Custom mini PC have odd things like long PCI riser cables because the ATX defined connectors are in the wrong place for mini pc builds.

Re: Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Post by user_7832 »

ortusdux wrote: post #25

This could be good news for Framework. For me, the ability to upgrade a laptop's main board and then use the old one like a NUC is a big selling point. As their userbase grows it will be easer to pickup used boards for cheap.

If you have space, sure. But if I'm not mistaken, NUCs are 4"x4". For some folks (like me) that's unfortunately a bummer.

Re: Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Post by pavon »

Man it's a bad season for small form factor computers. I have four small home computers that are all NUC or PC-engine depending on needs, and now both are discontinued. The NUCs were difficult to justify on price alone, but whenever I looked all the reputable competitors were larger and/or louder.

Re: Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Post by brucethemoose2 »

solarkraft wrote: post #15
mepian wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, "5 nodes in 4 years" is the rallying cry of the company right now.

Hasn't this been the case for years? "Okay, we didn't get this node, but the next one or the one after that is totally ours"

Apparently 18A is ahead of schedule.

If its not, that would be very dire, given the rumors that 20A is behind. Intel can only cancel and delay for so long.

Re: Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Post by answiftydev »

DesiLurker wrote: post #44

I call BS on them being not good market fit, Apple does totally fine with mac mini. also these are just laptops w/o screen and battery. IMO the real reason may be worries around minipcs finally getting good enough that they may cannibalize higher margin PC market. BTW there are other vendors like Beelink that make semi decent tiny computers and I have one of those as my teenage kids pc,works just fine.

I would bet the majority of Mac minis sold are used as ci/cd servers for iOS and Mac development. I would also bet the Mac mini is the third lowest selling Mac with the Mac ultra and Mac Pro being the least.

Re: Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Post by wtallis »

adrian_b wrote: post #10

This is sad, because the Intel NUCs were some of the last computers with adequate technical documentation. For most modern computers you cannot be 100% sure about what you get for your money, until you have them in your hands and you can run tests yourself. By then, if you discover that the computer is not exactly what you want, it is too late. You cannot get your money back because the computer is not defective, it…

I had the same feeling of disappointment when Intel exited the consumer motherboard business. I bought one of their Ivy Bridge generation motherboards for my PC build at the time because it was the only one that I could confirm had the features I wanted. The motherboard manual listed details like the part numbers for the SuperIO, Firewire and audio chips, the location of the temperature sensors on the board, the current ratings for the fan headers. I knew exactly what I was getting, and knew there was no reason to shell out for a more "high end" motherboard because there wouldn't have been any improvement to any functionality I cared about.

Re: Intel exiting the PC business as it stops investment in the Intel NUC

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Post by giantrobot »

jauntywundrkind wrote: post #23

They only targeted enthusiasts but there's incredible competition above and below. Down market, there are way cheaper 1L business PCs which are mass produced for businesses but work great for consumers wanting small quiet (or not, 65w options also available) systems. Up market, there's all manner of small form factor gaming PCs and others. Intel did have a knack for having interesting twists & innovations, but they r…

Every time I looked at getting a NUC when I wanted a SFF system I ran into this problem. If I just needed a low power Linux box I could get a cheapo Atom device or even just a Raspberry Pi. If I needed more power a SFF PC, a laptop, or even a Mac mini was usually an overall better buy accounting for my time invested.
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