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Mozilla ending support for Windows 7

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Re: Mozilla ending support for Windows 7

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post #35

That's a shame. Windows 7 is the last good Windows. I'm not convinced that later versions of Windows have some incredibly useful APIs that cannot be called dynamically and need to be used unconditionally. This chase after new APIs also makes the program harder to support in ReactOS and Wine.

Running a 14 year old operating system in the world we live in today is dangerous and stupid. If you don't like newer Windows, that's fine, don't use Windows. But operating systems that old should be relegated to airgapped machines for historical purposes.

You could give some arguments. I heard that ransomware runs pretty well on the latest windows versions.

Re: Mozilla ending support for Windows 7

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post #60

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Sure, fonts local to my machine. Remote fonts can go to hell, and I've likewise got cookies and JavaShit all blocked as emails go because WTF does email need them for? Seriously, my threat model doesn't include anything that updates claim to guard against. I'm not a fucking enterprise server, nor does any government specifically want my shit. Try arguing for me to update my router before talking about the virtues of…

Does disabling JavaScript also disable loading iframes? IIRC it does not, but my memory's hazy on the topic. This exploit allows arbitrary code execution by requesting too big a height for an iframe, which corrupts a GDI data structure. https://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2011-5046/

iframes are purely an HTML element. Of course, this flaw is patched in the latest Windows 7, but it's a great example of the potential risks nonetheless.

Re: Mozilla ending support for Windows 7

#73
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This is terrifying. Windows 7 was EoL in early 2020. If you're in a time where you've heard about COVID-19 you shouldn't be using 7.

Why not ? Win 10 is a terrible OS.

Because you haven't received security updates in three years and are one bad HTTP GET from becoming a botnet node or ransomware victim. I loathe W10 but I loathe being hacked more.

Re: Mozilla ending support for Windows 7

#74
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Running a 14 year old operating system in the world we live in today is dangerous and stupid. If you don't like newer Windows, that's fine, don't use Windows. But operating systems that old should be relegated to airgapped machines for historical purposes.

You could give some arguments. I heard that ransomware runs pretty well on the latest windows versions.

I felt that explaining why water is wet was probably not worth my time, but someone suggested if I needed something very basic explained, I should try ChatGPT. Here you go:

    Security vulnerabilities: Operating systems, like any software, are prone to security vulnerabilities. As time passes, these vulnerabilities become more apparent and are exploited by hackers and malicious actors. A 14-year-old operating system lacks the latest security updates, leaving it highly vulnerable to various cyber threats, including viruses, malware, and hacking attempts. Security patches and updates provided by the operating system developer help address these vulnerabilities, but they are typically discontinued for older versions.

    Lack of support and compatibility: As technology advances, software developers focus their efforts on creating applications and tools compatible with the latest operating systems. By running an outdated operating system, you severely limit your ability to use modern software and benefit from the latest features and improvements. Moreover, software developers and tech support teams usually stop providing assistance and compatibility updates for older operating systems, leaving you stranded if you encounter any issues.

    Incompatibility with newer hardware: Old operating systems may lack the necessary drivers and support for modern hardware components. This means you may have difficulties installing and using new devices, such as printers, scanners, or graphics cards. As hardware manufacturers continue to innovate, they prioritize compatibility with up-to-date operating systems, making it increasingly challenging to integrate old systems with new hardware.

    Missing out on advancements: Operating systems have come a long way in the past 14 years. Newer versions offer significant advancements in terms of performance, stability, user experience, and productivity features. By sticking to an outdated operating system, you miss out on these improvements, making your computing experience less efficient, less secure, and less enjoyable.

    Lack of software updates and features: Older operating systems no longer receive software updates, bug fixes, or new features. This lack of support means you won't benefit from improvements that enhance usability, introduce new functionalities, or address software issues. It also restricts you from accessing the latest applications and services that may require newer operating system versions.

    Compliance and legal concerns: Depending on your use case, running an unsupported operating system could lead to compliance and legal issues. Organizations, particularly in regulated industries like finance or healthcare, are often required to maintain up-to-date and secure systems to protect sensitive data. Failure to comply with these regulations can result in penalties, loss of reputation, and legal consequences.
It's crucial to keep your operating system up to date to ensure the security, compatibility, and functionality of your computer. By running a 14-year-old operating system, you expose yourself to unnecessary risks and miss out on the benefits of the advancements made in recent years. It's generally recommended to upgrade to the latest supported operating system or a version that is still receiving security updates to ensure a safer and more productive computing experience.

Re: Mozilla ending support for Windows 7

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post #70

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Why not ? Win 10 is a terrible OS.

Because you haven't received security updates in three years and are one bad HTTP GET from becoming a botnet node or ransomware victim. I loathe W10 but I loathe being hacked more.

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB502...

Re: Mozilla ending support for Windows 7

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post #70

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Why not ? Win 10 is a terrible OS.

Because you haven't received security updates in three years and are one bad HTTP GET from becoming a botnet node or ransomware victim. I loathe W10 but I loathe being hacked more.

> one bad HTTP GET from becoming a botnet node or ransomware victim

Just like in Windows 10 and 11.

Re: Mozilla ending support for Windows 7

#77
post #35

That's a shame. Windows 7 is the last good Windows. I'm not convinced that later versions of Windows have some incredibly useful APIs that cannot be called dynamically and need to be used unconditionally. This chase after new APIs also makes the program harder to support in ReactOS and Wine.

I'm no windows sysadmin but I think windows 10 is a big step up in terms of security and corporate administration, from my distant memories of being in IT.
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