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Re: How the new Threads app is made

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Post by wouldbecouldbe »

epistasis wrote: post #50
coldcode wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are missing substantial features like hashtags and follows, leaving you at their mercy to show you content. That would imply it's just a WIP shipped to nearly 100M people. It's doubtful it will ever shrink, given how much is missing, unless it's in there but not production quality. My guess is they shipped it in a hurry, and now there is enormous pressure on them to add all the missing features quickly, never a…

Features are a looooooong second place to userbase. Hashtags mean nothing compared to having millions of users to interact with. Launching in a hurry to capitalize on the mistakes of your competitors is an amazing plan. Better to ship without the feature than to ship the wrong feature and be stuck with the tech debt. Better to launch and acquire users when possible, and slowly add the necessary parts. A far more impo…

Hahah I love the bias here.

Musk ships & changes things on the fly, Twitter is going to hell.

Zuck releases threads, amazing he dears to launch an MVP that fast.

Re: How the new Threads app is made

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Post by Kbelicius »

wmeredith wrote: post #55
troupo wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They are going head-to-head with one of the largest social networks Twitter has 450 million monthly active users at a generous guess. Facebook's MAU: 2.98 billion Instagram's MAU: 1 billion Twitter, is an (un)surprisingly small fry when it comes to social networks. Unlike most, Facebook actually knows how to build a social network, and grow it.

> Twitter, is an (un)surprisingly small fry when it comes to social networks. By active users, yes Twitter is smaller than many of the other big networks. But by influence, Twitter is one of, if not the biggest fish in the pond. @[username] is everywhere in advertising and news programs. People don't break news on Facebook and Instagram. There's a reason Musk and his backers paid $ 44 billion for Twitter, and it wasn…

> There's a reason Musk and his backers paid $ 44 billion for Twitter

Not really considering they desperately tried to get out of buying it.

Re: How the new Threads app is made

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Post by joemi »

coolbreezetft22 wrote: post #15
wbobeirne wrote: post #4

Have there been any public plans for a fully featured web app? Having it be read-only on the web is a non-starter for me.

I'm not even getting read-only on the web, as of this morning it just redirects me to the main page which does nothing?

There are read-only web links for users and posts. The easiest way to see it is by copying a link to a user or post from within the app. But there doesn't seem to be a web landing/browse/feed page yet (besides the main page that just gives a QR code linking to the app).

Re: How the new Threads app is made

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Post by tredre3 »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #30

72 MB is egregious for a Twitter-clone MVP. For comparison, the full-featured Twitter app itself is 40 MB. The Mastodon app weighs in at 1.6 MB.

> The Mastodon app weighs in at 1.6 MB.

The official Mastodon app weighs in at 70MB on my iOS device right now.

The store listing puts it at 58MB: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/mastodon-for-iphone-and-ipad/i...

Re: How the new Threads app is made

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Post by enneff »

CaptainFever wrote: post #68
MisterSandman wrote: post #48

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> my internet cap is reached 1. The vast majority of the world now has access to very high or unlimited data packs. This is hardly the big issue that HackerNews makes it out to be. 2. Threads' main user base is Instagram. An hour of watching Instagram Reels is more data than the entire Threads app. I highly doubt Instagram users are data strapped. > "my battery is drained faster" App size has nothing to do with how m…

> 1. The vast majority of the world now has access to very high or unlimited data packs. This is hardly the big issue that HackerNews makes it out to be. Source? This seems like a really first-world country thing to say.

Ironically, IME there tend to be fewer data restrictions in developing countries than developed ones.

Re: How the new Threads app is made

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Post by jeromegv »

wouldbecouldbe wrote: post #71
epistasis wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Features are a looooooong second place to userbase. Hashtags mean nothing compared to having millions of users to interact with. Launching in a hurry to capitalize on the mistakes of your competitors is an amazing plan. Better to ship without the feature than to ship the wrong feature and be stuck with the tech debt. Better to launch and acquire users when possible, and slowly add the necessary parts. A far more impo…

Hahah I love the bias here. Musk ships & changes things on the fly, Twitter is going to hell. Zuck releases threads, amazing he dears to launch an MVP that fast.

What has Musk shipped exactly that benefits non-blue users?

Re: How the new Threads app is made

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Post by edmundsauto »

wmeredith wrote: post #55
troupo wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They are going head-to-head with one of the largest social networks Twitter has 450 million monthly active users at a generous guess. Facebook's MAU: 2.98 billion Instagram's MAU: 1 billion Twitter, is an (un)surprisingly small fry when it comes to social networks. Unlike most, Facebook actually knows how to build a social network, and grow it.

> Twitter, is an (un)surprisingly small fry when it comes to social networks. By active users, yes Twitter is smaller than many of the other big networks. But by influence, Twitter is one of, if not the biggest fish in the pond. @[username] is everywhere in advertising and news programs. People don't break news on Facebook and Instagram. There's a reason Musk and his backers paid $ 44 billion for Twitter, and it wasn…

The last year has significantly weakened Twitter's position. Musk paid $44B for a company that was almost immediately worth less; he has massively harmed it's image for further valuation reduction. The recent "must be logged in to view tweets" and "only X00 items available" combined with the increase in hate speech weakened it even further.

Further, Twitter has laid off 75% of the people who could help combat this push.

You are describing Twitter from 2-3 years ago. It is not is such a strong position now, and people are actively looking for something else that provides similar functionality. By bootstrapping from an existing social graph, it's a really strong possibility this is Twitter's death blow.

Re: How the new Threads app is made

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Post by elwell »

moffkalast wrote: post #17
gravitronic wrote: post #3

Any clues to what percentage is made with react native? https://www.threads.net/t/CuW_fXZOgPc/ would suggest to me the answer is "not much"

Ah, so even the makers of React are not dogfooding it anymore. Sounds about right.

Meta is not the target market for React Native.

Re: How the new Threads app is made

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Post by fmajid »

troupo wrote: post #38
colesantiago wrote: post #36

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This didn't stop 70M+ users from downloading the app and using it. Nobody cares.

People care. You just refuse to listen to what they say. They say things like "my internet cap is reached", "my battery is drained faster", "my phone is slow" and a million other things that oblivious and clueless programmers don't hear because they can only hear when someone talks about megabytes, cpu cycles, RAM etc.

They may make a “Lite” version of the app like they did for Facebook or WhatsApp, but Twitter’s user base is much less developing world heavy, so I doubt it. This was clearly a skunkworks project, once it is established, it will get more resources including optimization specialists. Then again, Twitter, being the abode of bro-grammers, never got it and Musk had a point when he fired most of the team.
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