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Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Does anyone have any insight into if this a respin of the same Threads app from 2019 or just the same name? https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/10/03/threads-instagram-f...

It looks like only the name was reused. All the functionality in the previous Threads app is now in the main Instagram app.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#72

Disappointing that competitors are bootstrapping new social networks by mass-scraping Twitter data. This is almost certainly what Elon was referring to earlier this week; the same thing happened with Substack Notes. Hope Twitter pursues legal action against Meta for this.

> are bootstrapping new social networks by mass-scraping Twitter data

I am 99% sure that this is not a real thing and that you're using all of these words incorrectly.

When was Substack illegally scraping Twitter data? What Twitter data is being used to bootstrap Threads?

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#73

Big signals that Musk made a lot of mistakes with twitter if Meta scrambled to ship a competitor like this. I don’t use Twitter so I won’t use this either but it’ll be interesting to see if the instagram folks can take this market from twitter.

Musk made a lot of mistakes with twitter

Now call me crazy but I disagree. I think - or rather I feel - he's doing an excelent job somehow. He's doing what other executives are afraid to do: he's building and building requires some walls to be hammered down ; and yeah this makes some noise and smoke. He's moving fast and breaking things (if you'd excuse the easy punt). To me, what he's doing is exciting and I think twitter is gonna thrive once the big work is done.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#74
post #33

No mention of federation or Mastodon in the description. I wonder how their negotiations with large Fediverse servers are going. Is there anything else that distinguishes this from existing Facebook products?

The number of people who have even heard of "federation" or "Mastodon" is a vanishingly small fraction of the target audience for this app. Why waste precious page space on it?

And if it is compatible with Mastodon, that audience will do all the advertising themselves.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How, exactly? What control does Meta exert over the Fediverse that the users cannot resist?

"ActivityPub with Meta extensions" If there are more Threads users than non-Threads users then non-Threads instance admins have to choose between adapt or risk emigration. EEE is a consolidation tactic after all.

Many of the people on Mastodon today are perfectly happy without Meta users on it, myself included. If they try to hard-fork, I'm fairly certain the self-hosters would just walk away and let the links/outgoing support break on Meta's app. They need peering networks more than peering networks need them.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How, exactly? What control does Meta exert over the Fediverse that the users cannot resist?

"ActivityPub with Meta extensions" If there are more Threads users than non-Threads users then non-Threads instance admins have to choose between adapt or risk emigration. EEE is a consolidation tactic after all.

Masto hosts already chose emigration once, that's why they are on masto. I don't see the mastodon crown adapting.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#77

Big signals that Musk made a lot of mistakes with twitter if Meta scrambled to ship a competitor like this. I don’t use Twitter so I won’t use this either but it’ll be interesting to see if the instagram folks can take this market from twitter.

Musk made a lot of mistakes with twitter Now call me crazy but I disagree. I think - or rather I feel - he's doing an excelent job somehow. He's doing what other executives are afraid to do: he's building and building requires some walls to be hammered down ; and yeah this makes some noise and smoke. He's moving fast and breaking things (if you'd excuse the easy punt). To me, what he's doing is exciting and I think t…

What is it that you think he's building?

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#78
post #7

As a Mastodon/Fediverse user, I hope the rumors that this is based on ActivityPub are true. I'd love for there to be an easy-to-use interface for everyone that brings more people and content into the Fediverse.

From a user on a small mastodon instance, no thank you. Admins of the smaller, more colorful, and technical instances are already getting ready to actively block and defederate as necessary. We don't want or need Meta bringing their digital typhoid to the fediverse.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#79

I feel like the people who are concerned enough to leave twitter over the direction it's going will not jump straight into another app completely controlled by a single person. My guess is they will possibly see some growth from instagram power users who are convinced to try it, but I don't anticipate a mass diaspora from twitter to threads. EDIT: others in this thread are claiming that it may be compatible with acti…

The average Instagram user doesn’t know or care that zuckerberg runs the show. They know it works all the time and isn’t constantly making changes that are annoying to deal with.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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If this gains traction, how long will it take for Meta to enshittify Threads?

Facebook and Instagram have been stable, if nothing else... But I feel like Meta is under immense pressure to monetize users as more and more see the "Facebook is for old people and TikTok is draining Instagram" writing on the wall.

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