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Re: Save My House From Apple

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Post by noisebleed »

Somewhat tangental, but this is the second post I've seen here recently that plays up the ".. and this happened on my birthday!" angle ( this being the first: http://lunduke.com/?p=2206 ).

I'm extremely sympathetic to anyone who's struggling, but seriously, why should a birthday matter in this context? You can debate Apple's app store policy, but should they be expected to factor in stuff like birthdays when they enforce it? It just seems like a cheap pity play that, for me at least, undermines whatever point is being made.

Re: Save My House From Apple

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Post by gurkendoktor »

kubov wrote: post #40
kenneth_reitz wrote: post #2

Apple did this to me too, without explanation. They've owed me $13,860 for over a year now. You're 100% at their mercy.

--initial comment, Hello, Hacker news! Apple software distribution system is a feudal system where, unfortunately, programmer is a peasant.

Being employed by any normal company makes you 100% dependent on a single entitity. In contrast, being independent allows you to put your eggs into different bags. The App Stores are a part of it by providing international payment. What would you suggest instead?

Re: Save My House From Apple

#73

Post by pgeorgi »

madmaze wrote: post #11
petercooper wrote: post #7

This is the same Apple that plans for GateKeeper to check a certificate server for blacklisted apps and developers in OS X 10.8. Imagine not even being in the App Store and your app's mainstream customers with default settings seeing a scary warning message because your certificate was accidentally blacklisted. Coming to the HN front page later this year..? :-) Orienting your business around the ecosystem of a corpor…

"Coming to the HN front page later this year..?" I assume this may be a theme in the making.. I wonder if App Store like ecosystems have similar issues. I havnt heared of any in the android market, but im sure similar cases can be found.

Still, with android market, once your app has a reputation, you have a fair chance to distribute by yourself, as few devices lock down the side-loading capability.

Re: Save My House From Apple

#74

Post by ojilles »

noisebleed wrote: post #71

Somewhat tangental, but this is the second post I've seen here recently that plays up the ".. and this happened on my birthday!" angle ( this being the first: http://lunduke.com/?p=2206 ). I'm extremely sympathetic to anyone who's struggling, but seriously, why should a birthday matter in this context? You can debate Apple's app store policy, but should they be expected to factor in stuff like birthdays when they enf…

That looks like the same guy?

Re: Save My House From Apple

#75

Post by bad_user »

rickmb wrote: post #45
robomartin wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't just an Apple problem. There's a disturbing trend here. All of the dominant internet companies exhibit this kind of nonsensical "evil" behavior: Google, eBay, Apple and Paypal, to name the most salient examples. Way back when, Microsoft was openly painted by Apple (and the Apple cult followers) as being evil. Interestingly enough, Microsoft never sought to have this kind of a death grip on its users, at le…

The repeated comparison with Microsoft's "former" evil lacks perspective. Microsoft aimed higher and sought to pretty much own the entire ecosystem and everything in it . You don't need to kill of someone's revenue stream if you've taken said someone out of the equation entirely. The painful difference is, where Microsoft actively aimed for the big game, leaving most smaller businesses to do as they please as long as…

     But it's still nowhere near as "evil" as
     MS former dominance
This argument comes up a lot but I just don't see it.

In regards to the death of such companies like Netscape or Borland, you cannot put the blame on Microsoft's evilness. Sorry but you cannot. These companies completely fucked up their products. If they kept working and improving instead of fucking up their products, Borland would still sell developer tools and Netscape would still make serious money with their browser.

Also, take a look at Adobe. This company is not only big and old, but it thrived in a Microsoft-dominated world with products that directly competed with Microsoft's own products.

Now do a small exercise, take the effects of present-day Apple and scale that to a 90% market-share.

Re: Save My House From Apple

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Post by csomar »

VonLipwig wrote: post #53

I sympathise with the developers plight and this is a reason why I haven't wanted to get into App development. If your not battling people cloning your games, you have a constant axe swinging above your head that the app store may find fault with your App and remove it. You then have changing rules and requirements in the App Store.. The thing that bugs me a bit though is how the developer is asking for money. "Save…

As someone making a living from an App Store (though not Apples one), 14 days are enough to turn your emergency alarms. You need to know that

1- You get paid a month later. (and apparently, he is not going to for January) 2- If that's your dependable income, you'll need 3-4 months until you find a job or figure out a different revenue stream.

So if he is not getting paid for January, that's already 2 months of non-pay. But I agree on the lack of financial planning. Before jumping (and dropping from college) into this market (small products + freelancing), I saved 1 full year of expenses. Yes, you read it right, 1 full year.

My first aim is to guarantee the next year spendings. It's 70% done now (my year began on September, though). After that, I can spend/invest/save or whatever.

Re: Save My House From Apple

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Post by lignuist »

I have two Macs, two iPhones, an iPad and some Apple Software and I enjoyed them. Also I told my Father to buy Apple products (since I'm the one who tells him how his computer works). I saw Apple getting more and more ridiculous over the last few years (there are hundreds of stories), so here is my conclusion:

Getting more money makes them more evil. That's it for me. I'm not going to buy any Apple products again. I was using a lot of OSS tools, so switching to Linux should be easy.

My Advice to software developers is:

Try to make cross-platform software. You are giving such companies much less power this way.

Re: Save My House From Apple

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Post by noisebleed »

ojilles wrote: post #74
noisebleed wrote: post #71

Somewhat tangental, but this is the second post I've seen here recently that plays up the ".. and this happened on my birthday!" angle ( this being the first: http://lunduke.com/?p=2206 ). I'm extremely sympathetic to anyone who's struggling, but seriously, why should a birthday matter in this context? You can debate Apple's app store policy, but should they be expected to factor in stuff like birthdays when they enf…

That looks like the same guy?

Oh, yeah, so it is. I didn't notice initially. Probably explains why I was so reminded.

Again though.. I hate to see devs getting screwed over in any context, and I wish Bryan the best, but personally I think he's making his point poorly. Apple is not trying to take his house, and his birthday is irrelevant to their actions.

Re: Save My House From Apple

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Post by oleganza »

AppStore is not the only way to sell the software. And I don't get why instead of asking for donation he didn't put a "buy button" right there, on the story page?

I'd rather buy his stuff than simply donate him money. This way it would be better for both of us.

Instead he asks for money "for free" and does not provide a direct link to buy his app. This looks really strange.

Re: Save My House From Apple

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Post by kubov »

gurkendoktor wrote: post #72
kubov wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

--initial comment, Hello, Hacker news! Apple software distribution system is a feudal system where, unfortunately, programmer is a peasant.

Being employed by any normal company makes you 100% dependent on a single entitity. In contrast, being independent allows you to put your eggs into different bags. The App Stores are a part of it by providing international payment. What would you suggest instead?

I don't mean that, this kind of work is bad I mean the apple attitude to developers is bad. I haven't thought it through anyway, sorry.
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