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I wonder if this stuff comes in cycles. I remember there seemed to be a lot of interest in UFOs in the 90s then it kind of died down. Here we go again, I guess.
Right now it's riding the wave of virality from the Chinese balloon/UAP stuff from earlier this year and last year.
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The hypothetical aliens don't need to be mortal biological creatures. An advanced probe "crewed" by artificial intelligence could take thousands of years to send copies of itself from one star to the next using propulsion concepts from the 1960s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracewell_probe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propuls... They could have have arrived in the solar system 100 million ye…
To be honest, the hardest thing for me to believe with this hypothesis is the possibility of a society that can not only survive for 100 million years, but maintain an interest in a subject for that long.
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I'm not trying to explain why he would lie to congress or why senators do things. I was just giving other options that I think are more likely than the dichotomy that you laid out. If I'm honest your dichotomy reminds me of some evangelists who are like 'either this guy was literally God or so many clergy have been misinformed or lying to an absurdly implausible degree for centuries or millennia, checkmate atheists'…
I understand, and I'm trying to explain how your options don't make sense in the context of the senators' recent actions. I take offense to your edit. I'm not being a religious zealot saying God has to exist. If you understood anything about the US security clearance system, you would know that everyone has to undergo a rigorous psychological evaluation every 5 years to keep their Top Secret SCI clearance. You can no…
My man, any number of unwell ppl have occupied high level positions. Michael Flynn is nuttier than squirrel shit. F’in lunatic Trump held the very highest office. Point to any of the crazies that are associated with either of those raging assholes and it’s nothing but mental illnesses and outright crazy goals and ideas.
I did a bit of first-hand UFO account investigation for a while. Lots of people wanted to share their experiences as a narrative that they could control. Unfortunately when I started with a set of questions I had been working on to help me gather info, many of those same people would refuse to discuss further or wouldn't complete the questions. Eventually I had to conclude that, among other things, a lot of folks are…
Valid take you've got, I think.
What were some of these questions?
When conspiracy theories become mainstream in politics, so does other non-sense like this. My question is then, who's keeping the secrets secret now?
we are living in a post-secret world. any actual secret will just drown in the noise. and if not it will be labeled a conspiracy theory. snowden and assange released secrets - the majority neither knows nor cares. mkultra stuff - tell this on a party and 90% will immediately label you a nut case. then you say - well, just read about it on wikipedia. nobody will care about that, they won't bother checking. but you'll…
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The Havana syndrome stuff is still highly classified. From what I’ve heard, there’s something going on there.
That's the problem with the Havana Syndrome -- it's all "from what I've heard", AKA hearsay. There is simply no scientifically credible evidence of any malfeasance. The fact that the government agencies have not come out outright and said as much, can be easily explained by the fact that they have nothing to gain by debunking it. You can rest assured that there are no longer any CIA agents assigned to investigating t…
I agree it’s frustrating because the entire situation is classified, but this is how the intelligence community works. We can’t show our hands by making reports to the public. I hope one day we can.
There is a discussion in congress about trying to change the classification system since the default is to over-classify everything, but we will see if that happens.
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They might be possibilities. But, the senate intelligence committee recently passed an amendment to the NDAA 2024 just 3 weeks after Grusch went public to include the following: > The new UAP language (found in Section 1104 of the bill) would require "any person currently or formerly under contract with the Federal Government that has in their possession material or information provided by or derived from the Federal…
The United States government also took accusations of satanic sex cults in the US very seriously, funding protection programs, conferences, and research. Turns out that was all the product of flawed investigation, but representatives knew their constituents were concerned and wanted to be seen doing something (or at least wanted to avoid accusations of doing nothing). I believe a similar explanation could apply here.
There is a big difference here. Grusch has given specific locations and names of people that congress can subpoena. Marco Rubio has confirmed that other highly credentialed whistleblowers with first hand knowledge are confirming Grusch’s claims. I believe we will know soon enough whether this is real or not.
To try to catch hacker news up to the situation: David Grusch, A former NGA intelligence officer has recently come forward with allegations that there are waived, unacknowledged Special Access Programs that are reverse engineering non-human technology, and that these programs have not had proper congressional oversight. Why should we give him the time of day? Well, he was one of the highest intelligence officials in…
I want to know how it was ascertained that this technology is "non-human".
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I understand, and I'm trying to explain how your options don't make sense in the context of the senators' recent actions. I take offense to your edit. I'm not being a religious zealot saying God has to exist. If you understood anything about the US security clearance system, you would know that everyone has to undergo a rigorous psychological evaluation every 5 years to keep their Top Secret SCI clearance. You can no…
> You can not be unwell and be an intelligence officer at the level of Grusch. My man, any number of unwell ppl have occupied high level positions. Michael Flynn is nuttier than squirrel shit. F’in lunatic Trump held the very highest office. Point to any of the crazies that are associated with either of those raging assholes and it’s nothing but mental illnesses and outright crazy goals and ideas.
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I understand, and I'm trying to explain how your options don't make sense in the context of the senators' recent actions. I take offense to your edit. I'm not being a religious zealot saying God has to exist. If you understood anything about the US security clearance system, you would know that everyone has to undergo a rigorous psychological evaluation every 5 years to keep their Top Secret SCI clearance. You can no…
> everyone has to undergo a rigorous psychological evaluation every 5 years to keep their Top Secret SCI clearance. You can not be unwell and be an intelligence officer at the level of Grusch. You can, for up to five years. Assuming that the evaluation actually catches whatever illness you might have.