I hate this behavior. I’ve stopped using MS first party tools on Windows altogether because of this.
Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default
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Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default
#72Glad I uninstalled Windows and use Ubuntu on all my computers
I did this many years ago, ran into a bunch of issues and switched back. Tried again maybe 4 (?) years ago and have stuck with it - everything is pretty smooth for my purposes now. I do run into some random issues sometimes - like display drivers randomly resetting. That seems to be the biggest one.
For me it was always Nvidia Optimus not working properly, causing poor battery life.
Turns out I now have a related problem in Windows, with the integrated GPU spinning at full throttle despite not doing anything important.
I've somewhat improved battery life(and CPU temperature) by setting the system to prefer the discrete GPU, which is a ridiculous solution to a problem which I shouldn't have had in the first place.
At this point I think I can live with selecting one of the GPUs and sticking to it for a given session, like I did in Linux on my previous machine. Even if I have to restart the system each time.
Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default
#73Microsoft is always striving to improve and streamline our product experiences—offering a new way to use the classic Microsoft Outlook app on Windows and the Microsoft Edge web browser. to help you stay engaged in conversations as you browse the web. I wonder if the people who write this sort of BS-filled prose really believe in what they're writing. To be completely honest, the style almost sounds like LLM output.
I asked ChatGPT to write the announcement, and it was very close to this kind of language: https://chat.openai.com/share/67c7c09f-e01d-494b-aac3-0104b9...
Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default
#74Ugh can't wait until Linux is accessible for blind people like me. Y'all seen the new Windows File Explorer context menu? Freaking sucks. I'm sure I've posted this here before but dang, it just keeps getting worse.
Sorry for being ignorant, but I always imagined that the terminal workflow should work much better for blind people than Windows‘ reliance on graphical widgets. Or is the issue elsewhere?
Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default
#75Google does something like this with the GMail app on iPhone— you click links and instead of just opening Safari, it pops up a "which browser to use" selector modal, which is really just an advertisement for you to install Chrome.
This is a changeable setting (though obviously it sucks that you have to make a choice to use your default browser).
Hamburger > Settings > Default Apps (in "General" at the bottom)
Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default
#76I changed it back to use default browser. It took all of 60 seconds to google the answer. They totally should take a calculated risk like this in order to gain more market share. Exercising control over software defaults rarely causes users to abandon a product entirely. The pain of changing the default back is much less than the pain of finding a new tool. Microsoft will not lose Outlook users by doing this. They wi…
> They totally should take a calculated risk like this in order to gain more market share. Exercising
God I hope we get another anti competitive lawsuit over shit like this in my lifetime.
Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default
#77Google does something like this with the GMail app on iPhone— you click links and instead of just opening Safari, it pops up a "which browser to use" selector modal, which is really just an advertisement for you to install Chrome.
This is a changeable setting (though obviously it sucks that you have to make a choice to use your default browser). Hamburger > Settings > Default Apps (in "General" at the bottom)
It's such an obvious dark pattern; I'm really surprised Apple accepts this from Google, but I expect there's some mutually assured destruction horse-trading that goes on behind the scenes with players this large.
Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default
#78The title is a little clickbaity - the behaviour can be changed: “ Ultimately though, if this experience isn't right for you, you can turn off this feature the first time it launches in Microsoft Edge, and then in Outlook settings at any time after that. ” Having said that, Microsoft seem to be entering another phase of baiting antitrust regulators.
Chrome got to do it with Gmail/etc. when they were ramping up, so I don't see the issue with Edge doing it.
Edge has another funny behavior where if you go to a Chrome extension page, it says you can install the extension. However, Chrome puts a web-page warning over the install button to block it and try to get you to install Chrome again.
It's clear companies value being your default browser.
Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default
#79Windows is just full of hostile, anti-user patterns these days. I've considered building a windows box just to have a gaming rig multiple times over the last few years, but every time an article like this or their crusade against Chrome reminds me that Bill Gates is still the same anti-trust monster he was in the 90s.
Google has an equally annoying crusade against anything that isn't Chrome. Visit google.com with Edge (on desktop) and you immediately get a popup on the top right "Google recommends using Chrome. Built for Windows. Easily search on Google with the fast, secure browser". As if there was any material difference between the browsers. We need a comeback of antitrust enforcement with teeth to get both Microsoft and Googl…
Its so weird that one company isnt mentioned, but will straight up not allow you to run any programs they want.
These have dark patterns, but freedom still. (Not M$ anymore, they restore defaults with each update)
Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default
#80Is this because not all browsers support stuff equally? A few days ago on fresh windows install I couldnt watch netflix on ff/edge, but on chrome it worked. Player error. I guess it was related to some missing drivers?
This is funny since, according to Netflix, it has better support for edge than for chrome. https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23742
My understanding for that is because Edge implements DRM and allows up to 4k resolutions, which you can't get on other browsers in Windows.