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A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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I like mountain biking on very technical tracks, I can't really think of anything other than the track, it requires full attention. I like that. Put me on a speed cycle (not sure what the English word is), it gets boring, my mind starts to wander, I don't even remember what route I took.

Road Bike (as opposed to Mountain Bike)

No Semis, Brodozers or Soccer mom SUVs on mountain bike rides. Road biking is unacceptably risky. Not judging, it’s the other people on the road who I don’t trust.

Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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I don’t know if this has changed for younger generations, but a lot of people, particularly those in intellectual pursuits, suffer to one degree or another from thinking of themselves as a brain being carried around as a meat sack. We are learning more about mind body connections and this is very not true (the ways the vagus nerve can totally fuck with your mental state is terrifying, and there are people with dysfun…

Our society has suffered massively from this disconnect. I honestly do feel like our computer and avatar-oriented society is fuelling it. Like the benefit for men you mentioned, I think women have a unique benefit too: a lot of women's healthcare knowledge has been suppressed, and developing these skills of bodily awareness helps with self-knowledge of those things.

Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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My wife had severe post partum depression twice. I wonder how much of it is linked to lack of exercise.

It could be a factor, but it's also worth noting the full extent of the effects of the hormonal changes during and post-pregnancy still aren't well understood. Estradiol messes even with your body's usage of adenosine for petesake

Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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I don’t know if this has changed for younger generations, but a lot of people, particularly those in intellectual pursuits, suffer to one degree or another from thinking of themselves as a brain being carried around as a meat sack. We are learning more about mind body connections and this is very not true (the ways the vagus nerve can totally fuck with your mental state is terrifying, and there are people with dysfun…

Mostly the kind that involves getting up from your seat and going outside...

After that, the more cardio exercise you get the better...

Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's burried in the article, but it's there: exact type doesn't matter, higher intensity / making you breath harder is better, dimminishing returns above 2.5 hours per week.

stronger than diminishing returns - negative returns Depression Four reviews42 44 57 58 presented analyses by weekly session duration (68 component RCTs, >5016 participants, online supplemental eFigure 12). The median SMD for ≤150 min/week and >150 min/week was –0.58 (IQR=–0.77 to –0.30) and –0.29 (IQR=–0.40 to –0.07), respectively. Anxiety One review58 provided analyses by weekly session duration (17 component RCTs,…

I am inclined to agree with them. Things really started looking up for me when I was doing about 90 minutes of one exercise and 2-3 hours a week of a second.

I definitely got the impression that this was working better than when I rode 15-25 hours a week, and there were definite diminishing returns with walking for distance. Not unlike how the first few bites of a candy bar are most of your experience and then at the end you’re mostly just finishing it. After the second or third bite it’s all downhill.

Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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I don’t know if this has changed for younger generations, but a lot of people, particularly those in intellectual pursuits, suffer to one degree or another from thinking of themselves as a brain being carried around as a meat sack. We are learning more about mind body connections and this is very not true (the ways the vagus nerve can totally fuck with your mental state is terrifying, and there are people with dysfun…

The thing that made me transition from a mindset of “I have a body” to “I am a body”, was actually Zen meditation. This was surprising to me. Before I tried it, I thought of meditation as a purely mental thing, I didn’t expect that the first really noticeable effect of regular meditation would be a changed relationship to my body, Much later I discovered contemporary dance, quit my phd in machine learning and became…

Mostly the kind that involves getting up from your seat and going outside...

After that, the more cardio exercise you get the better...

Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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> The benefits of exercise might not be immediate, says Singh, but they should show up within weeks or months. Beyond that, the longer people engaged in exercise, the less beneficial it became for their mental health. This may be because they were sticking to the program less, due to waning motivation or, perhaps, injury. It could also be because the exercise itself began to feel less novel and more repetitive. This…

Do you not have access to the outdoors? Parks, paths, etc? The physical is only one aspect of it.

Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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Nobody mentioning rock climbing? Come on, I bet half of Hacker News partakes in it

I climb, but I doubt 5% of hacker news does. In fact, among software engineers (few of whom rock climb in my experience), I suspect the ones who climb are less likely to be on HN

If all my joints worked the way I would like I’d be spending half as much time talking about my hobbies online. It’s what I do in the in between times.
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