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Framework Laptop 16 Deep Dive – Enclosure

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Post by princevegeta89 »

rfwhyte wrote: post #13

Still waiting for the other shoe to drop with a pricing announcement. I keep getting almost excited about the Framework 16", but then I'm remember it's probably going to be well over $2500USD for a decently specced model (without a GPU even) and my excitement quickly dissipates.

Is that really going to cost $2500 though? Sounds like a massive deal-breaker to me.

Apple is giving me a Macbook Pro with solid hardware for an equivalent amount of money that I can always count on for everything I do, and still set it for ~40% of the value 5+ years later.

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Post by princevegeta89 »

butz wrote: post #10

Are we at the point where buying and assembling a laptop, like building a desktop PC, can be done by any enthusiast?

If anything I would suspect if it's anywhere near the complexity of assembling a PC. This laptop is designed to be no-more than a real-world drag and drop machine

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Post by CarVac »

princevegeta89 wrote: post #71
rfwhyte wrote: post #13

Still waiting for the other shoe to drop with a pricing announcement. I keep getting almost excited about the Framework 16", but then I'm remember it's probably going to be well over $2500USD for a decently specced model (without a GPU even) and my excitement quickly dissipates.

Is that really going to cost $2500 though? Sounds like a massive deal-breaker to me. Apple is giving me a Macbook Pro with solid hardware for an equivalent amount of money that I can always count on for everything I do, and still set it for ~40% of the value 5+ years later.

For this you don't need to sell it 5+ years down the road—you pop in a new mainboard with the latest processor, for much less than a new laptop would cost, and off you go.

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Post by bodge5000 »

strangescript wrote: post #7
cowpig wrote: post #3

I find the battery life on my framework 13 really bad (ubuntu installed). There's some issue where the battery drains fairly quickly in suspend which requires enabling "deep sleep" mode, but it still drains a lot faster than other laptops I've had. And then the battery life in general isn't very good; I'd say ~2 hours at full brightness with some video streaming mixed in with normal browsing. I wonder if that's the s…

I find battery life with linux in general pretty poor. It also struggles achieve any kind of reasonable hibernate/suspend. I can throw my macbook into a bag and pull out a week later with just a small battery draw down. I have never had a linux laptop that would not be completely dead in that scenario.

I find my macbook (M1, Air) achieves really good battery life when I'm actively using it as my main computer (so including sleep/hibernate) but extremely poor when I'm not. For example if I turn my Macbook completely off and leave it for a month, the batteries drained completely.

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Post by CarVac »

seabrookmx wrote: post #41
cowpig wrote: post #3

I find the battery life on my framework 13 really bad (ubuntu installed). There's some issue where the battery drains fairly quickly in suspend which requires enabling "deep sleep" mode, but it still drains a lot faster than other laptops I've had. And then the battery life in general isn't very good; I'd say ~2 hours at full brightness with some video streaming mixed in with normal browsing. I wonder if that's the s…

I'm running Fedora with the i5-1240p, but I can squeak out maybe 4.5hours max if I'm just in VS Code and don't have my brightness maxed out. With max brightness and Google meet running in Firefox, I barely get 2. And that's with the "Power Saver" profile enabled in GNOME. I really love the machine otherwise, but I can't say I haven't considered just getting a Macbook Air (especially now that they have the 15").

On my 1240p I've gone 6 hours on 80% of the battery (the limit I set) coding in vim at a reasonable indoor brightness.

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Post by KRAKRISMOTT »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #38
rowanG077 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get it. What does this has to do with the article?

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You stop shilling for System76, no matter how good their QA is, the actual product is trash. Their screens and casing are on the level of bargain store acer machines, not premium quality laptops. I want my Linux hardware to be on the level of Macs, "privacy" and "coreboot" are no excuse for lack of product vision and poor mechanical engineering.

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Post by artimaeis »

G3rn0ti wrote: post #62
kibwen wrote: post #54

Surprised to learn that magnesium is lighter than aluminum. Is it also more expensive? There must be some reason people still mostly use aluminum.

Magnesium is lighter than Aluminum because it is in the 2nd group of the periodic system to the left of Aluminum residing in the 3rd. The latter has got one additional proton and a couple of neutrons more.

There’s more to it than their atomic weights. Magnesium (24 amu) is ~66% the density of aluminum (27 amu). As I understand it, the crystalline structure of aluminum is more “tightly packed” than that of magnesium.
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