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Codespaces but open-source, client-only, and unopinionated

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Re: Codespaces but open-source, client-only, and unopinionated

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Post by timmytokyo »

esafak wrote: post #66
timmytokyo wrote: post #24

Tried it, but it doesn't seem to work with non-rootless podman as a replacement for docker.

Are you using podman for everything in production? I am still trying to understand when to use it.

I don't have any experience using podman in production. I use it on my dev PC for work, where I have to run Windows. Previously I used Docker Desktop for Windows, but I got tired of dealing with its various annoyances. Podman has been a mostly seamless drop-in replacement. It doesn't support swarm, which I used to use with docker, but I've found a good solution using docker-compose instead.

Re: Codespaces but open-source, client-only, and unopinionated

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Post by dharmab »

pcthrowaway wrote: post #49
dharmab wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does not emulate. My org has been deprecating Vagrant ever since IT started issuing Apple Silicon as an option. Replacement is Docker Compose, or cloud VMs for software with heavy disk I/O.

Do you know if Packer is still decent for building cloud AMIs? Or do you have any suggestion for building custom images that can run on cloud platforms as well as locally?

We're mostly using multi-arch container images for that use case.

Re: Codespaces but open-source, client-only, and unopinionated

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Post by donmcronald »

qudat wrote: post #65
donmcronald wrote: post #51

I looked at this about a week ago and think it has potential. One thing I dislike, and it's an industry wide problem, is the eagerness to continuously (re)build containers on demand [1]. Everyone does it, but I think that's a mistake. What I want is something where I can build and publish a dev container to my local Docker registry and then use that container to develop until I decide I need to build an updated versi…

Have you looked into distrobox? I’m using it now for my dev environment running on top of an immutable OS (microos). It’s not perfect but I never have to spin the container down.

> Have you looked into distrobox?

No. It looks a bit heavy for what I think is an ideal solution. The way this one works with Jetbrains Gateway is what really piqued my interest.

Re: Codespaces but open-source, client-only, and unopinionated

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Post by Rapzid »

gentele wrote: post #31
earthling8118 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well you see if they acknowledged nix then they wouldn't be able to claim to be the first.

Haha, spicy. We definitely don't want to overlook nix. It's a great tool. We do mean something different with "developer environment" in that context of this quoted sentence. I'm not sure if nix will help you much if you want to connect your VS Code to a remote VM or container to work inside of that environment. We'll work on rewording this though to make things clearer :)

I'm sure you can find a narrow enough definition; I believe in you.

Re: Codespaces but open-source, client-only, and unopinionated

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Post by Aeolun »

numbsafari wrote: post #11
andrewmunsell wrote: post #7

I'm likely not the target audience, but I personally see "client-only" as a disadvantage. Ultimately I use VS Code to stand up devcontainers on my laptop, but I sometimes need to do dev work on my iPad and don't want to pay for Github Codespaces. Gitpod has worked for me in the past and I've gotten Coder setup. Maybe this will be nice to get Jetbrains IDEs working with the devcontainer standard, since IIRC they don't…

Will they ever? JB isn’t really known for doing that sort of thing.

Their new IDE Fleet is built around it.

Re: Codespaces but open-source, client-only, and unopinionated

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Post by donmcronald »

donmcronald wrote: post #51

I looked at this about a week ago and think it has potential. One thing I dislike, and it's an industry wide problem, is the eagerness to continuously (re)build containers on demand [1]. Everyone does it, but I think that's a mistake. What I want is something where I can build and publish a dev container to my local Docker registry and then use that container to develop until I decide I need to build an updated versi…

Reading the docs more, it looks like the prebuilt workspaces [1] are closer to what I would want.

1. https://devpod.sh/docs/developing-in-workspaces/prebuild-a-w...

Re: Codespaces but open-source, client-only, and unopinionated

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Post by weikju »

drewtato wrote: post #70
weikju wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Short for "Apple Silicon", the marketing name for Apple's own series of ARM CPUs used in Macs since 2020.

This is like shortening github to git

not really, since there's the extra context of "Mac" right before it, so it's easier to know what it's about...

Re: Codespaces but open-source, client-only, and unopinionated

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Post by square_usual »

CGamesPlay wrote: post #9

What are some of the competitors in this space? - Gitpod, a SaaS competitor to Codespaces. http://gitpod.io - Coder, which I guess is the more enterprisey self-hosted Codespaces alternative? https://coder.com - This project, Devpod, seems to be a polished experience but not centralized like Coder. - I recently stumbled upon Recode, which looks like a more indie take on the problem. https://github.com/recode-sh/cli

Is there a comparison of some sort somewhere? I have some spare resources I could use for one of these, but they all seem very similar.

Re: Codespaces but open-source, client-only, and unopinionated

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Post by quickthrower2 »

22c wrote: post #14
CGamesPlay wrote: post #9

What are some of the competitors in this space? - Gitpod, a SaaS competitor to Codespaces. http://gitpod.io - Coder, which I guess is the more enterprisey self-hosted Codespaces alternative? https://coder.com - This project, Devpod, seems to be a polished experience but not centralized like Coder. - I recently stumbled upon Recode, which looks like a more indie take on the problem. https://github.com/recode-sh/cli

It's a lot older but I would say Vagrant intersects with this space https://github.com/hashicorp/vagrant Possibly devenv, as well.. Though I haven't personally tried it https://devenv.sh/

Vagrant was the reason for Hashicorp :-)

Re: Codespaces but open-source, client-only, and unopinionated

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Post by jabbany »

weikju wrote: post #59
solarkraft wrote: post #57

> Mac (Silicon) Huh? Yes, it contains silicon.

Short for "Apple Silicon", the marketing name for Apple's own series of ARM CPUs used in Macs since 2020.

They do have a lot of very weird abbreviations, like in the getting-started/install page there are options for: MacOS (Intel/AMD) (...=> amd macs? I guess hackintosh?), Linux AMD (no Intel this time?)

I get they are abbreviating amd64 but still... I've never seen it done like this...

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