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Canada's population reaches 40M

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Re: Canada's population reaches 40M

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Post by mikrl »

haldujai wrote: post #45
mikrl wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ontario is culturally 2 provinces, southern and northern Ontario. The north is what you normally think of Canada: rocks, trees and lakes. The south is similar to the neighbouring US states of Michigan, Ohio, and New York but with a distinct Canadian identity and a French region in the east. Most of the population (13.4M) lives in the southern part (114,000 km^2)

Still a bit too general. Southwestern Ontario (Windsor/London) is very culturally and demographically different from Toronto/Golden Horseshoe and Eastern Ontario (Ottawa/Kingston) Michigan is also culturally different from New York.

The north-south split is the most striking, but yes south can be further divided into the GTA, SW (farm country and a small part of the rust belt, similar to the Midwest) and eastern (Ottawa and the townships: government and farms)

Michigan and Ohio are most similar to SW but upstate NY also bleeds culturally into the region, both around Niagara and the thousand islands.

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Post by barbazoo »

faluzure wrote: post #25
andrewstuart wrote: post #12

Australia has dramatically increased its immigration intake. 750,000 this year and next, with 1.5 million in total coming in the next 5 years. This huge number of people are being brought in during Australias worst ever housing crisis. The ALP government doesn’t care in the slightest. In fact it’s greatly to the advantage of the politicians, most of whom own 1/2/3/4/5/6 or more houses.

1.5 million over 5 years are a rookie numbers. We did 1 million just last year. And our housing minister of housing in Canada just bought his second rental property.

> And our housing minister of housing in Canada just bought his second rental property.

I'm not saying this isn't true but I'm having difficulties finding a reliable source for this.

Re: Canada's population reaches 40M

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Post by Marsymars »

faluzure wrote: post #68
Marsymars wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We did 1 million just last year. I'd note that this number gets thrown around a lot, but it was 600k temporary work/study permits and asylum claims.

Does it really matter what status folks come over with? That's still net +1 million folks that need to be housed and fed in a calendar year.

Well it doesn't matter for this year, but it makes for a very different trajectory - there's no reasonable way that we net +600k temporary residents every year.

Re: Canada's population reaches 40M

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

ipaddr wrote: post #64
andrewstuart wrote: post #12

Australia has dramatically increased its immigration intake. 750,000 this year and next, with 1.5 million in total coming in the next 5 years. This huge number of people are being brought in during Australias worst ever housing crisis. The ALP government doesn’t care in the slightest. In fact it’s greatly to the advantage of the politicians, most of whom own 1/2/3/4/5/6 or more houses.

It's like there is a global plan by government for some hidden agenda

No, it's actually not.

Re: Canada's population reaches 40M

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

haldujai wrote: post #52
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The right comparison would be with the area and population of southern & maybe eastern Ontario and use that. Northern Ontario is really just something else. Anything north of the line where the Canadian shield begins becomes basically unarable and extremely low population density. And once you get past e.g. Timmins, there's really ... "nothing." (Pretty though.) I don't have the patience to go look this up, but obv i…

> maybe eastern Ontario What do you mean by "maybe"? Eastern Ontario contains the 4th largest metropolitan area in Canada (Ottawa) which is a very reasonable comparator, the density is 195/km.

IT's just there are large parts of what is classified as "eastern Ontario" that is kinda similar to the near-north ; not arable, shield & cottage country, and sparsely populated. So it doesn't feel fair. But yes, Ottawa clearly a major centre.

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Post by Zandikar »

faluzure wrote: post #68
Marsymars wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We did 1 million just last year. I'd note that this number gets thrown around a lot, but it was 600k temporary work/study permits and asylum claims.

Does it really matter what status folks come over with? That's still net +1 million folks that need to be housed and fed in a calendar year.

> Does it really matter what status folks come over with?

Yes, because it also matters if we're talking about residencies (shelter) or residents (people).

Numbers are arbitrary to keep things simple:

start, 100 population, 40 residencies.

2018: Add 10, of which 2 are temp

2019: Add 10, of which 9 are temp

Assume no population losses. What's your current (2019) population? It COULD be 120, but not necessarily. We know it's at least 109 (100+8+1 permanent) so lets look at what happened to the 11 temps specifically.

Keep in mind temporarily granted residency typically needs to be renewed yearly if not more frequently. If one is in country for Jan-Apr and a second in July-November, then you had a net population gain of 0, a gross gain of 2, and a median gain of 1, and could have required 1 or 2 residences to accommodate them. 0 - 2 technically but lets assume we're doing our best to shelter people.

Then the question is, until you know what the 2019's 9 temp residents are going to do, you can't really call them a net gain for the purposes of talking trends of population. You can however use them when talking housing supply, as regardless of how long they're staying, they will be there at SOME point, and while there, yeah, they need a place to stay.

TL;DR: For this threads context, probably better to think of temps as "pending" residents.

Re: Canada's population reaches 40M

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Post by voisin »

gaudat wrote: post #78
bee_rider wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve heard beer is actually pretty pricey in Canada

Thanks to the Liquid Cash Barrons of Ontario.

I believe those liquid cash barons are now all international conglomerates. Also, I can tell you that the LCBO is actually quite a bit cheaper than BC Liquor and NSLC. Though compared to Alberta it is way more expensive.
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