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Do Foundation Model Providers Comply with the EU AI Act?

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Re: Do Foundation Model Providers Comply with the EU AI Act?

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You are one wicked free thinker dude.

I wish haha, they are just following the guidelines :)) https://www.openculture.com/2022/01/read-the-cias-simple-sab...

When you write code, do you also ignore edge cases to keep things simple?

Re: Do Foundation Model Providers Comply with the EU AI Act?

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Maybe we should, for high risk applications.

You think software is bad now? Imagine if the world got 1% as much practice writing software because it was a licensed profession.

Why is that a problem for software but not other licensed professions such as law and and *actual* engineers.

Re: Do Foundation Model Providers Comply with the EU AI Act?

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Yeah but a two-page font size 20 alternative proposal would introduce a thousand obvious and another ten thousand non-obvious loopholes, much like that double negative of yours. (I'm not trying to be a grammar Nazi, English isn't my native lang either) One of the reasons why the Constitution of USA has to be interpreted constantly is because it's relatively short and vague.

There is this weird and very real similarity between code and law. I realised this when I had to read up on some laws that were relevant to me, and found them shockingly easy to understand despite never having studied law.

Yeah I found something similar as well. It's all logic.

Re: Do Foundation Model Providers Comply with the EU AI Act?

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It is important to note acts of EU parliament are just one stage of EU lawmaking and the fact "an act has passed" doesn't make it a law. Once such act has been passed there are many steps EU as well as member states have to take to make it law. So, this article is very useful, but it really is just an analysis of compliance with _proposed_ law. For it to become real law EU council has to agree unanimously (made up of…

This is an Act, it won't be nationally implemented but is applicable directly in EU states.

There are legislative and non-legislative acts. For the "Acts" that indeed are law the EU council can oppose them and the parliament has no power to override it. Eu Parliament is basically an auxiliary body. This particular "act" is a proposal for a regulation. It's not law itself. If it was going to be EU council would have to be involved and it makes the final decision. EU parliament only "accepts legislative acts" if EU council agrees, also negative results of such vote can be disregarded. It's not a real parliament. It's a place to transfer tens of thousands of Euro per person per month to people that pretend to make law. Funnily enough, EU parliament is the only truly demand cratic body in the EU, but it has the least lawmaking capability.

There is lots of text on sources like "Wikipedia" that make it sound like EU parliament is almost as powerful as national parliaments. This is simply untrue. First and foremost EU parliament hasn't even got the most basic parliamentary perogative of initiating proceedings in a legally binding act. Instead of Wikipedia I suggest this page (EU own) that shows various types of legal documents in EU. https://european-union.europa.eu/institutions-law-budget/law...

Of all these EU parliament can only make on its own "opinions" and "recommendations". Every other type gets initiated (the very first draft of text is written) by another body. Then the parliament votes on the proposal, but get this... The EU council is by no means bound by a result of that vote. So EU parliament can "strike down a proposal" and the EU council can still progress it. All it has to do is "take it under consideration". See a good factual description of the procedure here on a EU page https://commission.europa.eu/law/law-making-process/types-eu...

As for the act in this article it's not even an act that can become law in its current form. That particular act will now enter into a "draft negotiation mandate" phase when all real stakeholders (nation states) get to say if they like it, how they want to change it etc. And maybe then at some point it'll become law, in what capacity? With what wording? Who knows.

Re: Do Foundation Model Providers Comply with the EU AI Act?

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You think software is bad now? Imagine if the world got 1% as much practice writing software because it was a licensed profession.

Why is that a problem for software but not other licensed professions such as law and and *actual* engineers.

Well, for starters I don’t want to live in a world with better lawyers, and secondly, by “actual engineers” do you mean civil engineers? In the US anyway, most engineers are not licensed excepting some civil engineers.
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