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What Reddit Got Wrong

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I think the idea put out by some people here that Reddit might be in the process of radically changing tracks is plausible. Reddit was always very hands-off. They had lots of very unpleasant and controversial content until their hand was forced. Overall they seem to want a site that runs itself as much as possible and over time content that required interaction and management (eg, AMAs, Secret Santa) got de-prioritiz…

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Reddit Inc in my perception is amoral, tending towards immoral. In general they want to do as little policing as possible, and only do the least amount they can when their hand is forced. But there's also some signs of the higher ups actually being okay with things that are icky and of very doubtful appeal to advertisers, like r/jailbait I'd say overall the leadership is just not good. It neither has any sort of mora…

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I doubt the likes of Google and Microsoft care in the slightest about the API.

Both already run search engines that index all of Reddit. They don't need any API. And Reddit can't block their crawler if it wants to remain relevant.

And OpenAI is a company with $10B investment and 375 employees. I'm sure they can figure out web scraping.

Re: What Reddit Got Wrong

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What went wrong is that after being divested from Condé Nast, reddit went and raised a huge round that ensured they would have to go down the route of synthetic growth tactics.

This whole operation could be wildly profitable with a team of 50-100 people and no major investors to appease.

Instead they read the room wrong, or just didn't care, and now we're here.

Re: What Reddit Got Wrong

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I never understand why Reddit is credited to the "free community based moderation" idea Facebook does this at much larger scale (2B users active in FB Groups), with way more spam, and some FB groups are much larger than most big subreddits Its not about Facebook or Reddit, its about people being so power hungry they do these things for free. When subreddits post about bringing in more mods, thousands apply, maybe 2 g…

Part of the complexity of moderating on Reddit vs. moderating on Facebook is Reddit's open-by-default nature and limited control provided to moderators.

For example: Optionally requiring a questionnaire before being able to post to a Facebook group significantly cuts down on spam. Reddit doesn't really have an equivalent. If a Reddit mod wants to implement similar? They could use the API to write something that blackholes new members' comments until they respond to an automated message. Not a great user experience and what happens if Reddit pricing changes now make that integration prohibitively expensive?

Some mods certainly power-trip but ultimately the role isn't a glamorous one: You're a volunteer customer success agent. Most of the work isn't hard or controversial, but at the scale of Reddit there's a _lot_ of it. The hardest part of recruiting new moderators is finding people who'll remain even minimally engaged. Replacing them certainly isn't impossible but the process of replacing proven-engaged moderators with newcomers that need to be vetted can be a ton of work in itself.

Re: What Reddit Got Wrong

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I think the idea put out by some people here that Reddit might be in the process of radically changing tracks is plausible. Reddit was always very hands-off. They had lots of very unpleasant and controversial content until their hand was forced. Overall they seem to want a site that runs itself as much as possible and over time content that required interaction and management (eg, AMAs, Secret Santa) got de-prioritiz…

That future sounds like one where Reddit is just micro TV with professional channels (subreddits) and professional content producers (posters).

It sounds terrible and the opposite of what made Reddit great, and therefore I think your prediction is correct.

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Yeah users on Reddit are worth on average around 30 cents each. But this is also why they're pushing the official Reddit app, to increase their ARPU.

They could just charge $2 for "API access with enough limits for power users" and pay both for missing ads and for API usage

That's exactly what they are doing with the API lol, but people still got outraged at that. The Apollo dev said that he would have to charge every user $2.50 a month to cover costs of the API, so even if the Apollo dev is exaggerating, $2.50 is not that high if people really want to user third party apps.

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post #31

> Reddit is transparent about the fact that the company is not profitable. There's the fundamental problem. The bills need to be paid.

Simple fix, if you use a third party app you need to have Reddit Gold. Problem solved.

I would've gotten reddit gold for sure to use Sync.

Re: What Reddit Got Wrong

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post #17

I think the idea put out by some people here that Reddit might be in the process of radically changing tracks is plausible. Reddit was always very hands-off. They had lots of very unpleasant and controversial content until their hand was forced. Overall they seem to want a site that runs itself as much as possible and over time content that required interaction and management (eg, AMAs, Secret Santa) got de-prioritiz…

My bet is that investors like Andreessen Horowitz and Sequoia Capital are pulling their hairs out, seeing Reddit lose money at the end of the month, after Open AI and others are raising trillions by scraping their data

There's no way to win this battle, though. Are they going to ... stop the Internet? People will find a way to siphon data from sites where people contribute large volumes of data.

Re: What Reddit Got Wrong

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My bet is that investors like Andreessen Horowitz and Sequoia Capital are pulling their hairs out, seeing Reddit lose money at the end of the month, after Open AI and others are raising trillions by scraping their data

Not reddit data, users data.

This is the key. Reddit owns nothing except a very poorly performant app that no one wants and a very forced and shitty web experience unless you are on old.reddit.com.

Its mind boggling how wrong they've been getting it for as long as they've been getting it wrong. Like how can any company/ CEO be that dense?

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My bet is that investors like Andreessen Horowitz and Sequoia Capital are pulling their hairs out, seeing Reddit lose money at the end of the month, after Open AI and others are raising trillions by scraping their data

Wait, you're saying openai was trained on reddit posts?! No wonder people are scared of AI.

Making the "weaponized autism" trope real
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