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Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Post by freedomben »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #31
donatj wrote: post #25

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I’d vote the opposite on the playful aspect. Todays UIs feel oppressively monotonous and lacking heart.

I miss the textured Aqua days. Peak was Leopard/Snow Leopard. Flat is just so... flat. And boring. And also harder to read, because it's harder to orient yourself in a big textureless area than in a space with some texture in it.

Likewise. Leopard/Snow Leopard were the point at which I was happen with everything Apple. It truly was peak (for me at least). I still had a Windows 7 PC and Linux (Fedora, Backtrack) on a laptop for running security tools, but I felt most "right" when on the mac.

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Post by spider-mario »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #31
donatj wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d vote the opposite on the playful aspect. Todays UIs feel oppressively monotonous and lacking heart.

I miss the textured Aqua days. Peak was Leopard/Snow Leopard. Flat is just so... flat. And boring. And also harder to read, because it's harder to orient yourself in a big textureless area than in a space with some texture in it.

I kind of liked the “brushed metal” texture that could be found in Tiger (10.4): http://toastytech.com/guis/osx14slideshow.png

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Post by spider-mario »

baal80spam wrote: post #10
darkstar_16 wrote: post #6

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Feels playful because everything else from that era was ugly in my opinion

I wouldn't call XP (Luna) theme ugly. It wasn't as clean as Windows2k but it was just fine.

I found the “Royale” theme from Windows Media Center far superior.

https://microsoft.fandom.com/wiki/Windows_XP_themes#Royale

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Post by germinalphrase »

G3rn0ti wrote: post #41
LeanderK wrote: post #2

Wow, unbelievable that it was designed in 2001! It still looks fresh and modern, although maybe a bit too playful so that it appears a bit childish? But only barely. It appears to have all the basic functionality expected from a modern operating system, I instantly feel right at home although I've never used it. I find the review terrible though, one of the major changes was the user interface, revolutionary I would…

> It still looks fresh and modern, although maybe a bit too playful so that it appears a bit childish? The aesthetics is called „Frutiger Aero“. Lots of colors and especially of blue, lots of transparency effects and fake light reflections. It all is inspired by natural landscapes with blue skies or blue water surfaces. Also skeuomorphisms everywhere. Windows 7 could be called the pinnacle of the use of Frutiger Aero…

“ I wonder what will be next or are we going to stick with heartless, cold metal designs forever”

If any design folks have an opinion on which way the winds are blowing, I’d love to see an example.

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Post by graypegg »

I think one of the weirdest things to me is how unchanged OSX / MacOS is. As much as I like this specific paradigm of computing UI, I kind of see why they’ve been trying new things as of late. (Stage manager, new settings panel, iOS-y control centre)

Just because it’s old, doesn’t mean it NEEDS to change, but I can imagine the need to at least explore a bit if something stays mostly the same for 20 years.

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Post by tambourine_man »

coreyh14444 wrote: post #56

I was deep into OS explorations in this period. I ran BeOS, Yellow Dog linux on PowerPC, had all flavors of NT, etc. My feeling about OS X at this time was that it was the right choice but that it was "too late" and that Apple took too long and the window of opportunity had passed. I take that now as startup advice: It isn't too late!

OS X was a bet on the future, that double buffering everything was OK because graphic cards would get there eventually. They certainly did, but we suffered through menus taking a good fraction of a second to drop down for a few years. I can still feel the pain.

I would never have taken that bet. I want computers to be fast now. It was the right bet.

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Post by graypegg »

G3rn0ti wrote: post #41
LeanderK wrote: post #2

Wow, unbelievable that it was designed in 2001! It still looks fresh and modern, although maybe a bit too playful so that it appears a bit childish? But only barely. It appears to have all the basic functionality expected from a modern operating system, I instantly feel right at home although I've never used it. I find the review terrible though, one of the major changes was the user interface, revolutionary I would…

> It still looks fresh and modern, although maybe a bit too playful so that it appears a bit childish? The aesthetics is called „Frutiger Aero“. Lots of colors and especially of blue, lots of transparency effects and fake light reflections. It all is inspired by natural landscapes with blue skies or blue water surfaces. Also skeuomorphisms everywhere. Windows 7 could be called the pinnacle of the use of Frutiger Aero…

I wonder if we’ll ever find ourselves in a “aero” nostalgia cycle? I already see a lot of hazy glass and reflections on some apple UI! Maybe it’s time for it’s renaissance!

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Post by coldpie »

vbezhenar wrote: post #29
baal80spam wrote: post #10

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I wouldn't call XP (Luna) theme ugly. It wasn't as clean as Windows2k but it was just fine.

Everything after Windows 2000 was ugly. Windows 2000 was the last system in the world with coherent and beautiful UI. Those times are over. We can't have good things.

Have you tried an XFCE environment? With the right theme, it's excellent, in my opinion.

A couple examples I picked off the XFCE screenshots page:

https://cdn.xfce.org/about/screenshots/4.16-1.png

https://cdn.xfce.org/about/screenshots/4.14-1.png

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