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Post by hospitalJail »

fron wrote: post #17
trollied wrote: post #8

There's a Reddit CEO AMA later today: https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/144ho2x/join_our_ce... Can't see it being anything other than a PR disaster for them, unless they change their stance.

It's more than likely that they'll inject their own softball questions and focus on those instead of addressing everyone's concerns in any meaningful way.

When they removed the upvote/downvote count, it was clear reddit was fine with manipulation.

Anything I read on the website has been met with extreme skepticism since it very well could be an astroturfer.

It's money. Reddit wants astroturfers, it grows their platform and helps sell ads.

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Post by andremedeiros »

seanalltogether wrote: post #67
andremedeiros wrote: post #4

Hi all! I wrote this code, and for educational purposes, I’d be more than happy to answer any questions. A gentle reminder that the whole history is here for show. This is very vulnerable — you can see the times I was in a rush, or when I took my time. You’ll find my mistakes. Either way, all I ask is please be kind. I know there are 50 things I could have done better, but this is a product of the reality at the time…

So am I right in thinking that the backend was needed to poll the user account in order to generate notification? Was that one of the issues that reddit had with how apollo was using their apis?

That’s how it worked, yes, but we went to great lengths to ensure that call had minimal impact on their end.

The TLDR here is that we only ever requested new notifications (give me anything that came after this thing I know about), which funnily enough then broke for some users, because if a reply you got notified about gets deleted and you use it for reference, Reddit will never return anything new to you, so I had to go and write a 2nd service that runs much more infrequently but does some checks on each account to make sure this isn’t the case.

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Post by londons_explore »

wkat4242 wrote: post #9
spiderfarmer wrote: post #2

All this backlash is going to kill Reddit. It will take a thousand little cuts for sure, but it started the moment they announced their ludicrous pricing.

I wonder.. The very same thing hardly seems to have hurt Twitter.

Twitter stats show great growth in musk related topics (space, EV's, etc), but a decline in the amount of content posted in nearly all other areas.

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Post by Waterluvian »

andremedeiros wrote: post #4

Hi all! I wrote this code, and for educational purposes, I’d be more than happy to answer any questions. A gentle reminder that the whole history is here for show. This is very vulnerable — you can see the times I was in a rush, or when I took my time. You’ll find my mistakes. Either way, all I ask is please be kind. I know there are 50 things I could have done better, but this is a product of the reality at the time…

You made something that people got a lot of value out of. That’s incredible. The actual code and commits are just the journey. They’re not the product. I’m rather delighted every time someone shows a realistic journey full of all the things we all experience, but some of us pretend don’t happen. Thanks for being vulnerable and sharing this.

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Post by pjc50 »

eterm wrote: post #21

Politically reddit have played a blinder. They've succeeded in killing their main competitor (in terms of ad share) and could even now walk back the api charges for any smaller operators and leave Apollo dead and avoid the biggest backlash. It's scummy as hell and I won't want to continue to contributing to reddit, but I can't help but feel they've been shrewd in getting what they wanted.

Does Apollo have any ad share?

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Post by andremedeiros »

Aachen wrote: post #62
andremedeiros wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s great feedback. Any particular areas I can walk you through?

Since I have no idea what's even here, I can't really answer that. Maybe just a few sentences on what this code does in general?

I’ll be happy to once I sit down in front of my computer.

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Post by londons_explore »

pjc50 wrote: post #56
wkat4242 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder.. The very same thing hardly seems to have hurt Twitter.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/10/tech/twitter-top-advertis... : more than half their advertisers quit.

A quick browse around twitter shows they have plenty of adverts to show.

They may be selling that ad space for pennies on the dollar... But they are managing to fill it.

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