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Re: NYC Subwaysheds

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you go to subawaysheds.com to learn about taxicab stands? that would obviously be taxicabstands.com. Why just NYC? Because does anything else exist outside of NYC? Maybe atlantic city, or the catskills, or niagra falls, but everything else is just unimportant

you seem.....upset.

not at all. just responding to a question with a response in the same manner. ridiculousness all around

Re: NYC Subwaysheds

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I'm not from NYC, so maybe this is obvious, but why can you not get from Staten Island to Manhattan in 40mins? Is there really not bridge/tunnel that can get you there?

The Verrazano bridge is usually baked up with traffic as is the two major highways feeding into it: Brooklyn-Queens Expressway (BQE) and the Belt Parkway. To get from SI to Manhattan by car you take the bridge to the BQE then battery tunnel into Manhattan but that's over and hour in traffic. Ferry is another option. There's no connecting subway tunnel and a single small train line runs north south to the east. Weird borough - feels like long island or upstate. Even had a shanty ghost town to the south.

Re: NYC Subwaysheds

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This kind of tool would be absolutely brilliant as part of Zillow. I'd love to see various distances from properties assuming bike, or walking, or driving, etc. Everyone who lives in a neighborhood knows these things, but it's really hard to figure it out before without traveling there and attempting some things.

Zillow already has that. You input an address and it tells you the distance in time by transportation method on each property details screen. You can also sort properties according to distance from the given address. The software labels it a "work" address, but you will face no consequences for using an address that you do not work at.

The problem is that this shows you how long it takes to get to a single place, rather than showing a map visualization like this site. I've often really wanted this on StreetEasy especially. I don't want to know how long it takes just to get to work, I want to know how long it takes to every neighborhood I regularly travel to.

Re: NYC Subwaysheds

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I'd be interested to know what the "best" stop is based on this - which station has the largest accessible area? Times Square [0] has the most connections, but Atlantic Av [1] has better coverage of Brooklyn. Hard to tell which is larger, though. 0: https://subwaysheds.com/stop/r16/times-sq-42-st 1: https://subwaysheds.com/stop/r31/atlantic-av-barclays-ctr

If you open it up to include LIRR, NJT and Metro North, Penn Station / Times Square / Grand Central is probably the winner. :)

Re: NYC Subwaysheds

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It would be fantastic if Google Maps and the like could take this into account when searching instead of just naively relying on distance. 2 miles away along a well-developed transit corridor is much "closer" to me than 2 miles away in a direction with no bus or rail options. Sometimes I'd be happy to go halfway across town if I can just take a single train there and it's close by the station. Especially if it involv…

Google maps is pretty basic for its routing. For example, I use a skateboard to commute to transit stops. It effectively cuts walk times in half or more and is easy to carry on a crowded train. There is no way to set this average walking/skating speed, however, so the routes they choose are not optimal and require my own localized knowledge of the transit network and schedule, and knowing the best routes for skating fast. This doesn't just affect skaters, but people who might have a bike or scooter they can use between transit trips. You can imagine all the much more optimal routings that become possible when you can suddenly move 10-15mph on a whim between point A and B.

Re: NYC Subwaysheds

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It seems to make the assumption that you’ll get any particular train instantly. Factor in expected wait time for each line and the local/express variants and the sheds will shrink substantially. it’ll also get confusing because the sheds will change as a function of time of day

That might not be an entirely wrong assumption to make. An office worker's working hours usually has some amount of slack, and people are willing to adjust their schedule to minimize wait time. No point waiting 25 minutes every day when you can get up 5 minutes earlier and wait basically zero.

Schedules are tough for a transit system to keep. Plus you aren't guaranteed to have the same walk to the station every day. Factor in maybe a couple light cycles of signals you need to wait for as a pedestrian to get down to the station, and your travel time on foot to the station can vary by a significant proportion, adding one or a couple three minute light cycles into the mix that might or might not hit for you. I try and anticipate getting to the platform at least 10 minutes before the scheduled train as a result. If I am closer to 5 minutes then I am rushing, feeling late, and stressed, and have missed plenty of trains in moments in this situation before.

Re: NYC Subwaysheds

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post #48
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It seems to make the assumption that you’ll get any particular train instantly. Factor in expected wait time for each line and the local/express variants and the sheds will shrink substantially. it’ll also get confusing because the sheds will change as a function of time of day

That might not be an entirely wrong assumption to make. An office worker's working hours usually has some amount of slack, and people are willing to adjust their schedule to minimize wait time. No point waiting 25 minutes every day when you can get up 5 minutes earlier and wait basically zero.

Transfers take a very relevant amount of time, even during rush hour when the trains are running frequently. Aside from waiting on the train, which does not keep a strict schedule and can get delayed for many reasons there is the walking time to the other train, which can be a decent amount even in locations where you don't have to exit the subway to transfer. Factoring a minimum 5-10 minutes extra time per transfer is a safe bet.

Re: NYC Subwaysheds

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post #76

It would be fantastic if Google Maps and the like could take this into account when searching instead of just naively relying on distance. 2 miles away along a well-developed transit corridor is much "closer" to me than 2 miles away in a direction with no bus or rail options. Sometimes I'd be happy to go halfway across town if I can just take a single train there and it's close by the station. Especially if it involv…

Google maps is pretty basic for its routing. For example, I use a skateboard to commute to transit stops. It effectively cuts walk times in half or more and is easy to carry on a crowded train. There is no way to set this average walking/skating speed, however, so the routes they choose are not optimal and require my own localized knowledge of the transit network and schedule, and knowing the best routes for skating…

Google maps seems to have evolved into something by and for car-centric user base.

Re: NYC Subwaysheds

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post #48
post #8

It seems to make the assumption that you’ll get any particular train instantly. Factor in expected wait time for each line and the local/express variants and the sheds will shrink substantially. it’ll also get confusing because the sheds will change as a function of time of day

That might not be an entirely wrong assumption to make. An office worker's working hours usually has some amount of slack, and people are willing to adjust their schedule to minimize wait time. No point waiting 25 minutes every day when you can get up 5 minutes earlier and wait basically zero.

You misunderstand. It's not about one seat rides or about schedules. Nobody knows the schedule in NY, the train is frequent enough to not care. But changing lines is basically a statistical 5 min of travel time each time you do it.
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