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Re: Leaked source – CS:GO

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Post by ogurechny »

opan wrote: post #7

The title says "open source" but then goes on to talk about leaked source. Unless a clean room RE was done, I don't think this can be called "open source". I want the thing in the title to exist, of course, but at best this seems like the sort of thing that won't be legal and free until we're all dead. If anyone was interested in making a properly free CS:GO, they probably should avoid reading this post as it seems t…

Intellectual property is a convention. Saying that nothing exists outside of that convention is like saying that someone without official papers does not exist (which is, unfortunately, not an odd occasional curiosity, but a hidden assumption permeating everyone's lives).

This is an open source code. It is not compatible with widespread economical system, but it is not any less open.

Re: Leaked source – CS:GO

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Post by kadoban »

arboles wrote: post #68
dizhn wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This person is really confused about licenses and copyright. > Please note that this code is property of Valve-Software and any contributions that you make are considered a donation into the public domain.

Unlike other commenters, I think the author of the article meant to say you can't hope to license contributions built ontop leaked code, obviously, so it'll always be a gray area that one could call "public domain".

One could call it pea soup and it'd be approximately as correct.

Re: Leaked source – CS:GO

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Post by RobotToaster »

Jack5500 wrote: post #13

This world view is quite perplexing, to be frank. On one hand, he urges potential users to switch to Linux, emphasizing its cost-free nature and the freedom it offers in terms of code and game direction. However, on the other hand, the code being used is stolen and leaked, thus infringing on the original creator's copyright. Additionally, the repository's license claims that all contributions are considered public do…

If you consider illegalism a legitimate political tool, there doesn't seem a great deal of contradiction.

Re: Leaked source – CS:GO

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Post by arboles »

kadoban wrote: post #72
arboles wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlike other commenters, I think the author of the article meant to say you can't hope to license contributions built ontop leaked code, obviously, so it'll always be a gray area that one could call "public domain".

One could call it pea soup and it'd be approximately as correct.

He's a hacker, not a laywer.

Re: Leaked source – CS:GO

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Post by saratogacx »

jablala wrote: post #3
sylware wrote: post #2

And cs2 is about to be released. Funny timing. You could dev a PC AAA game and released it only for elf/linux. It is so easy to install free mainstream elf/linux distros, ppl will probably do it to play that big PC AAA game.

Probably a good thing as from my understanding there is an uncertainty whether a version of CSGO will exist. For example there are some old patch versions available from circa ~2013 which are still playable. Not sure if that will be possible after the move to CS2. You would think so, but at the very least, "Kisak-Strike: Gentoo Offensive" will exist.

I'm not sure I understand this point. Can't you still play CS:Source and CS 1.6? Why wouldn't CS:Go keep operating. It may not get as many content updates but the core game should be able to keep going as long as Valve keeps the game servers running.

Re: Leaked source – CS:GO

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Post by [deleted] »

arboles wrote: post #69
dgellow wrote: post #66

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Anyone who cares about open source by definition cares about copyright. That’s what the concepts of free software and open source software are built upon.

I will continue to release my code without a license, glad that it makes corporations and their drones seethe.

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Re: Leaked source – CS:GO

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Post by ogurechny »

dgellow wrote: post #66
RektBoy wrote: post #45

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what the fk cares about copyright, this is coming from community of game hackers. They don't care.

Anyone who cares about open source by definition cares about copyright. That’s what the concepts of free software and open source software are built upon.

Wow.

Free software movement abuses the copyright system to prevent anyone from “owning” the software and putting a fence around others' work when greed tells it's suitable to do so. It has no intention to support its existence. As people only have that mediocre system today, and believe in it, it is used as a tool to partially formalize something from a different sphere of values.

Re: Leaked source – CS:GO

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Post by fullspectrumdev »

packetlost wrote: post #62
fullspectrumdev wrote: post #59

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For a lot of people, “the source code being available” is what “open source” means. Licences, to many people, are the domain of really fucking boring crusty nerds.

Then a lot of people are objectively wrong. The license is an incredibly important and central part of what makes code open source or not. What you're describing is "source available". Failure to pay attention to the licensing can end you up in very big and expensive legal trouble. I strongly encourage you to update your terminology for you and anyone you communicate with's own safety.

Again: most people I know don’t care. Many used to. Hell, I used to.

If they use a licence, they just throw WTFPL on it and call it a day like me.

What’s the worst risk? Someone in America sues me? Big deal.

Re: Leaked source – CS:GO

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Post by dandongus »

netule wrote: post #29
smoldesu wrote: post #23

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I was also confused, but I think their thesis statement is pretty enlightening: > If we got nuked tomorrow, and Steam went down, anyone could have CSGO up and running in the Bunker LAN by next week. Years later when us smoothskins are rockin’ Power9 Rigs, we would also have the ability to recompile and port the game. The lip service to "Open Source" and white-knighting is a little harsh, but I think this was made wit…

Valve has been relatively permissive regarding open-sourcing and liberally licensing some of its properties under the right conditions. See its push for SteamOS and allowing Black Mesa to be sold for profit. However, it might have been a good idea to contact them about this before hosting modified stolen property, even if it was with good intentions. I've got a feeling that this repo won't last too long.

>I've got a feeling that this repo won't last too long.

It appears the repo in question has been available for 3 years.

Re: Leaked source – CS:GO

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Post by dgellow »

arboles wrote: post #69
dgellow wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone who cares about open source by definition cares about copyright. That’s what the concepts of free software and open source software are built upon.

I will continue to release my code without a license, glad that it makes corporations and their drones seethe.

That just means you have full and complete ownership, so you’re sharing non-open source, non-free software code, also known as proprietary code. That has literally no impact on corporations or their drones, whatever that means.
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