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How to Stare at Your Phone Without Losing Your Soul

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Re: How to Stare at Your Phone Without Losing Your Soul

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Post by bckr »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #50
divan wrote: post #47

The problem is that internet is both a library and a public place. You need library for information and for work, and internet delivers here better than anything else - almost any information is available instantly. But unlike library with silence and no distractions you're at the same time in the middle of the giant public square, where all the people from your social circle also available instantly. It's like study…

> I really believe this social aspect of reachability of people (friends, haters or some people on internet you follow) is crucial. It's not about apps or a screen time, it's about social connection (even ephemeral) that gives this gratification and makes our brains summoning the apps. This. I've concluded the same, observing my own interaction patterns. I use very little social media (would've ditched Facebook if no…

I made the move from Facebook > Reddit > HackerNews for similar reasons.

I've been looking for the next step.

Is it

> magazines?

> books?

> phone calls?

> irl networking?

It’s all of these, yes, but I still open HN every time I get some down time. While it feels very useful to me, I feel that I would be better served with a more condensed version of what I’m after here.

I think I’m proposing a mailing list?

Re: How to Stare at Your Phone Without Losing Your Soul

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Post by baq »

bckr wrote: post #71
TeMPOraL wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I really believe this social aspect of reachability of people (friends, haters or some people on internet you follow) is crucial. It's not about apps or a screen time, it's about social connection (even ephemeral) that gives this gratification and makes our brains summoning the apps. This. I've concluded the same, observing my own interaction patterns. I use very little social media (would've ditched Facebook if no…

I made the move from Facebook > Reddit > HackerNews for similar reasons. I've been looking for the next step. Is it > magazines? > books? > phone calls? > irl networking? It’s all of these, yes, but I still open HN every time I get some down time. While it feels very useful to me, I feel that I would be better served with a more condensed version of what I’m after here. I think I’m proposing a mailing list?

A Usenet gateway to HN with a daily pull of the feed like we used to have in the 90s. It’s probably nostalgia speaking, but…

Re: How to Stare at Your Phone Without Losing Your Soul

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Post by mildavw »

bckr wrote: post #71
TeMPOraL wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I really believe this social aspect of reachability of people (friends, haters or some people on internet you follow) is crucial. It's not about apps or a screen time, it's about social connection (even ephemeral) that gives this gratification and makes our brains summoning the apps. This. I've concluded the same, observing my own interaction patterns. I use very little social media (would've ditched Facebook if no…

I made the move from Facebook > Reddit > HackerNews for similar reasons. I've been looking for the next step. Is it > magazines? > books? > phone calls? > irl networking? It’s all of these, yes, but I still open HN every time I get some down time. While it feels very useful to me, I feel that I would be better served with a more condensed version of what I’m after here. I think I’m proposing a mailing list?

Depending on what else is going on in my life, I’ll consume HN just once a week via

https://hackernewsletter.com/

Re: How to Stare at Your Phone Without Losing Your Soul

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Post by dopidopHN »

twic wrote: post #67
sledgehammers wrote: post #40

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You have spoken my exact thoughts aloud, thanks. Let's start working on the theory!

I tend think the transition to living online is basically a repeat of the transition to living in cities. That is, from villages to cities is the same as cities to online. There's more of everything - people, stuff, contact, density, access, coincidences. I wonder if we can learn anything from the previous transition.

ghetto and fenced community are not that great. If you deal with unrest be sure to build large boulevard to replace the narrow streets. Those are more efficient to bring troops quickly and harder to barricade.

Re: How to Stare at Your Phone Without Losing Your Soul

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Post by rubyron »

jtr1 wrote: post #55
prox wrote: post #10

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As the old saying goes, there is an app for that. Here you go : https://one-sec.app/

This looks very cool, although I went to check out their browser extensions and the permissions(!) > This app can read and change your data on any website

Pretty much every browser extension can/must do that.

Re: How to Stare at Your Phone Without Losing Your Soul

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Post by prox »

jtr1 wrote: post #55
prox wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As the old saying goes, there is an app for that. Here you go : https://one-sec.app/

This looks very cool, although I went to check out their browser extensions and the permissions(!) > This app can read and change your data on any website

You can use Apple own shortcuts app, so you decide if you want to give permissions for the browser or not. I even think you could make your own automation for the browser if you so wanted.

Re: How to Stare at Your Phone Without Losing Your Soul

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Post by waboremo »

jtr1 wrote: post #55
prox wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As the old saying goes, there is an app for that. Here you go : https://one-sec.app/

This looks very cool, although I went to check out their browser extensions and the permissions(!) > This app can read and change your data on any website

For the extension to handle prompting you before you go to a site, it has to know you went to a site and then show the prompt on it.

It would be nice if browser permissions were expanded on in greater detail with newer apis to handle different cases (and if Firefox and Safari could join in supporting unified standards here for privacy reasons), but for now such permission is required.

Chrome offers the ability to limit that per designated sites.

Re: How to Stare at Your Phone Without Losing Your Soul

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Post by throwaway1777 »

divan wrote: post #47

The problem is that internet is both a library and a public place. You need library for information and for work, and internet delivers here better than anything else - almost any information is available instantly. But unlike library with silence and no distractions you're at the same time in the middle of the giant public square, where all the people from your social circle also available instantly. It's like study…

I disagree that it’s a problem and with your analogy. The internet is more like a giant sprawling suburb where one house is studying advanced maths and the other is throwing a keg party. Sure it might disturb you to have neighbors like that but you have your own space.

Re: How to Stare at Your Phone Without Losing Your Soul

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Post by archixe »

ygouzerh wrote: post #9

That's so true. I love Youtube for its music, documentaries and software engineering content. But I hate the Shorts features, if I click on only one video, it sucks all my night. I built a small app for blocking the Shorts features, in this way I can enjoy the advantages without having the bad sides.

There is an add-on called unhook that allows you to disable almost everything on youtube. I turned off shorts, recommendations, the home page even the comments. Now all I see is my subsriptions page. It really stopped me from wasting hours hopping videos.

It also workes on firefox mobile, I stopped using the default youtube app.

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