Surely TFA could ask ChatGPT for a prompt that would generate the email, and then read that?
We'll make Nvidia rich in both directions.
Please stop sending me emails written by GPT
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Re: Please stop sending me emails written by GPT
#72> Please if you want to send me a message and feel compelled to use GPT, please just send me whatever you wrote in your prompt instead. I promise I will still read it! Best bit of the article. Question for someone who knows more about this stuff. How likely is it to get the same response to the same prompt with gpt ? Does it have some kind of random seed applied behind the scenes? -edit- Thank you for the responses.…
>Best bit of the article.
"Tell the person that he's being an idiot asking me to turn on my cameras during the meetings but be subtle about it, I don't want to offend them."
That'll work.
Re: Please stop sending me emails written by GPT
#73> Please if you want to send me a message and feel compelled to use GPT, please just send me whatever you wrote in your prompt instead. I promise I will still read it! Best bit of the article. Question for someone who knows more about this stuff. How likely is it to get the same response to the same prompt with gpt ? Does it have some kind of random seed applied behind the scenes? -edit- Thank you for the responses.…
"I promise I will still read it!" You might read it, but you won't answer the same way as you do when "choose a nice wording." was added to the prompt.
And how is that? Slightly annoyed?
Re: Please stop sending me emails written by GPT
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
I love these multi-step prompt 'hacks'. They very much take advantage of the fact that this is still 'just' a model predicting the next token. Asking a model to write an email as if it were written by Hemingway requires the model to generate a probability distribution based on the context of an email it needs to write + the style it needs to write it. In the second approach, you've changed the model weights/inputs by…
Those hacks are snake oil
Those hacks are literally how a large language model using a transformer architecture to predict the next token in a sequence works.
They take advantage of how a function choosing a token with maximal probability of appearing works.
Re: Please stop sending me emails written by GPT
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pretty sure this is entirely dependent upon the "temperature" parameter used when inferring. The higher the temperature the more uniform the response will be.
Quick fix: the higher the temperature, the more varied the potential responses. For uniform responses, you want the lowest temperature.
Oof. I was worried I was going to mess that up.
Re: Please stop sending me emails written by GPT
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
sender: writes summarized prompt llm: emits excessively lengthy and polite prose smtp: transports lengthy prose llm: summarizes lentghy prose to bullet points recipient: reads summary what a wonderful waste of energy
The way out of this is to make it acceptable to send emails that open with a polite greeting and then just outline their message in bullet points. As long as they're intelligible and not outright rude, emails really don't need to be a writing contest.
Is email really like that for other industries? Where I work, the only non-content prose I read or write is the salutation and signature:
``` Hello Bob,
We're observing an issue with X, and I was directed to you by Y as a good point of contact. Do you have any comments on:
1. Some point of interest. 2. ...
There's more info at:
Jira: http://some.site/TICKET-1 Customer Ticket: https://someother.site/1234
Respectfully, ```
Re: Please stop sending me emails written by GPT
#77From what I've seen so far, the best writers (and, I suppose, the best _editors_) tend to get the best results from ChatGPT. I have seen some examples of people whose writing I already liked drive it in ways I never imagined; but like the author suggest "normies" tend to get piles of drivel.
I mean, you can say - "I really really hate this line" - "I love that line a little bit, hmm actually I read it a bit more and it started to stink" - "This line feels a little too Vogue" - "Can we make this a little more Arnold in Kindergarten Cop" And it will distill that into something distinctly actionable. You have an interface to communicate your edits in the lowest friction way ever exposed by mankind and peopl…
My experience, both writing and coding non-boilerplate so far, has been that this back and forth almost always takes longer than doing the work myself.
There are situations that's not true, namely information retrieval, but I've yet to find it highly practical beyond being a fun experience.
Re: Please stop sending me emails written by GPT
#78The author seems unaware or at least uninterested in the fact that writing style can have a dramatic impact on output. It's unclear if they wish to not be emailed "by ChatGPT" or if they wish to not have to sift through unnecessary and flowery pose. I'll spare you the details, but a follow up "That's great. However, please rewrite it in the style of Ernest Hemingway." delivers concise, yet obviously Hemingway-esque e…
It took more work to write the prompt that it would to write the script email. “Please write a brief email from an employee to a boss giving an update on the api. The email should include 1. The /customers and /address endpoints are complete, but we're still waiting on the architecture team to finish the /orders spec. I'll also be taking Friday off.” And then you had to adjust it. Just include the information you out…
The point isn't to save time or energy - the point psychological displacement.
Whether we want to admit it or not, not everyone has done the work to handle critique. Some people rely on ChatGPT as a digital scapegoat[1]. Rather than subject their own abilities and decisions to critique, they can launder them through ChatGPT and the psychological distance it affords, allows them to avoid feelings of anxiety - they can blame any negative response on ChatGPT.
Never under estimate the amount of time an energy people will spend on coping mechanisms.
1. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hide-and-seek/201312...
Re: Please stop sending me emails written by GPT
#79I used ChatGPT to write my wife's Mother's Day card. I had to keep prompting it "now make it funnier" about five times. Then I had to edit it myself because it was still too formal. It didn't matter, she immediately called me out as soon as she read it. :)
Did you told her that she got a card from a digital Cyrano de Bergerac?
Re: Please stop sending me emails written by GPT
#80I used ChatGPT to write my wife's Mother's Day card. I had to keep prompting it "now make it funnier" about five times. Then I had to edit it myself because it was still too formal. It didn't matter, she immediately called me out as soon as she read it. :)
Did you told her that she got a card from a digital Cyrano de Bergerac?
Yeah, and then I showed her the prompts.