From the beginning I was ridiculing AGI dommsdayers, but just one month later I am waitng for an article about "Isn't it a great idea to connect LLM to NORAD system?"
Using ChatGPT for home automation
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#72This sounds very exciting, but the more I think about this the more I think the right interface UI for light control isn't language. I recently bought smart switches for my smart lights and its fantastic to be back to clicking.
Having to exclaim "I'm going to bed" every time you're going to bed, or "turn on bathroom lights" every time you're going to the bathroom is cartoonish at best, and gets annoying. Switching "turn on bathroom lights" for "I'm going to use the bathroom" doesn't make it much better. The ideal interface IMO is presence sensors or in their absence, well-placed light switches, given how quickly and subconsciously one can flick them.
I think there's room for augmentation and improvement using LLMs and language. A system that automatically adjusts the color of the lights based on the time of day, or one you can occasionally ask exact or complex queries (ie, "make the living room red", or "turn the lights off in 50 minutes please"). But for the day-to-day, having to "think" about your lights gets annoying.
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#73Oh I can just see it. A fire. A desperate resident. A plea for help. "Fucking help me!!!" screamed out. Rather than activate the sprinklers, ChatGPT admonishing the on fire, burning person, for language, and a lack of respect. This is the AI is see currently. A hazard. A menace. A joke.
versus what happens now, you scream “fucking help me” and just die anyway
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#74Here is what a large budget buys: massive marketing campaigns. ChatGPT spam is not showing signs of slowing down anytime soon. Are people aware there are other ais out there they can use? Some free?
Feel free to educate us and give a few examples with comments. Bonus points if they are available in EU...
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#75Oh I can just see it. A fire. A desperate resident. A plea for help. "Fucking help me!!!" screamed out. Rather than activate the sprinklers, ChatGPT admonishing the on fire, burning person, for language, and a lack of respect. This is the AI is see currently. A hazard. A menace. A joke.
The AI would start playing this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J91ti_MpdHA
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#76I'm not against idea of having LLM be smart assistant for home, but I do have problem with sending any of that to cloud. It's one thing to use it as convenient way to change anything remotely but linking home automation not only into constant internet connectivity but also "that one particular cloud thing that might disappear at any moment" (hello google) just seems like setting yourself for problems later. At least…
"Internet of Things will not happen until LAN of Things arrives", to paraphrase someone. This already happens in the industry, like heavy industry. At home, it's held back by absence of an adequate server. Often a router box or a NAS would be fine to host something like OwnCloud. But to run ML middle, different and much more expensive hardware is required, which would sit idle 99% of time.
Still can be solution, if your system degrades to "have to press a button on phone" when Internet/cloud is down that is still IMO acceptable.
Until we get something local powerful enough "cloudsourcing" LLM while keeping everything else locally is not a terrible compromise.
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#77I have been using chat GPT to control my light colours for about a month now. It's too tedious to properly set the colours and temperatures of our lights manually and too complex to consider all factors like activity, weather, music, time of day and season. Chat GPT is now our personal lighting DJ, giving us dynamic and interesting light combinations that respect our circadian rhythm. Here's my prompt - the output of…
This is awesome. How do you feed this into home assistant?
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#78Is there something that works with home assistant? Siri is just terrible and have been trying to replace it with anything. The ESP box posted last weeks looks pretty promising but wonder if there’s something that could work directly off of the rpi I host HA with.
Yes, see my example above. I use Node Red to get chat GPT and Home Assistant talking to each other. No code required (unless you count the prompt template).
Hmm do you have a node red template? Never used it so confused how to set this up. Is it voice activated?
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#79I have connected my esp32s to chat (telegram) and openai. With the correct prompt and an interpreter they can now execute requests in human language: https://medium.com/p/3242af6f2988
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Internet of Things will not happen until LAN of Things arrives", to paraphrase someone. This already happens in the industry, like heavy industry. At home, it's held back by absence of an adequate server. Often a router box or a NAS would be fine to host something like OwnCloud. But to run ML middle, different and much more expensive hardware is required, which would sit idle 99% of time.
LAN of things - this is a fascinating idea. Can you share where you are paraphrasing this from or link to more info on this concept? Sounds familiar with the self hosted applications people now run on their NAS/routers these days.
The concept is nothing new, it's just not something manufacturers picked on. Hobbyist are doing it all the time, usually in form of most devices either communicating directly or being bridged into queue. So technically via that every device can call every other device directly so for simple things you don't even need programming
The idea is just to keep that within your own LAN.
IoT world mostly wants to create closed gardens so you buy other products around that garden.
Easiest way to make it easy for consumer is to connect your devices to cloud and so most decide to go that way, no need for end user to buy a hub.
And even if you need to (say devices use zigbee and you need a bridge), putting that in cloud means user's phone can always access it, regardless of whether they are connected to the home's wifi, without much fuss (as home internet will most likely be behind NAT/firewall so it can be hard to access directly