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Fuck being productive

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Re: Fuck being productive

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Post by czscout »

kortilla wrote: post #60
sBqQu3U0wH wrote: post #15

Honestly, I do feel somewhat similar. I work a normal 8-hour day and I am not obsessed with productivity nor I am some kind of anti-work activist, but it just feels like such a waste of time. The only reason I go to work is for money. I don't care about the products we build for someone else (why should I?), nor the technologies used (each of which brings its own challenges and frustrations). If I didn't need to go t…

> I don't care about the products we build for someone else (why should I?) This mindset is how you kneecap your career. You’ve pigeonholed yourself into the foot soldier category when it becomes immediately obvious to managers that you aren’t thinking about what’s actually good for the company. You may already know this, but it needs to be explicitly called out that taking that approach to your business relationship…

I think it's possible to be invested in the performance and improvement of the company you work for without being personally invested in the exact product you're helping to develop.

Re: Fuck being productive

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Post by myth_drannon »

damnitpeter wrote: post #57
myth_drannon wrote: post #27

Next step: reading Charles Bukowski and just absolutely not giving a f*ck. I always seen him as the ultimate slacker and hoped some of that energy will trickle down to me when I was being workaholic. On another note I really liked "How to Be Idle" by Tom Hodgkinson https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/623922.How_to_Be_Idle In case you get some guilt feelings.

Any favorites from Bukowski to recommend? Always been interested but not sure where to start.

You can start from anything, they are similar. Factotum or Post Office... One is enough.

Re: Fuck being productive

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Post by notabee »

88913527 wrote: post #21
sBqQu3U0wH wrote: post #15

Honestly, I do feel somewhat similar. I work a normal 8-hour day and I am not obsessed with productivity nor I am some kind of anti-work activist, but it just feels like such a waste of time. The only reason I go to work is for money. I don't care about the products we build for someone else (why should I?), nor the technologies used (each of which brings its own challenges and frustrations). If I didn't need to go t…

If you care about the products, the emotional investment in your work might propel your income, which is the reason why you're working in the first place, so ostensibly a follow-on goal of that might be to raise your income.

Caring just as often leads to burnout, since many people wind up dealing with organizational dysfunction. If you truly care and the resultant product gets butchered due to politics or simply killed on an executive's whim despite having promise, that's going to affect you longer term and could make you less efficient or unable to dedicate good effort in the future, especially if that cycle is repeated several times. Getting too invested in something that you only have marginal control over is a two edged sword.

Re: Fuck being productive

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Post by jonfw »

kortilla wrote: post #60
sBqQu3U0wH wrote: post #15

Honestly, I do feel somewhat similar. I work a normal 8-hour day and I am not obsessed with productivity nor I am some kind of anti-work activist, but it just feels like such a waste of time. The only reason I go to work is for money. I don't care about the products we build for someone else (why should I?), nor the technologies used (each of which brings its own challenges and frustrations). If I didn't need to go t…

> I don't care about the products we build for someone else (why should I?) This mindset is how you kneecap your career. You’ve pigeonholed yourself into the foot soldier category when it becomes immediately obvious to managers that you aren’t thinking about what’s actually good for the company. You may already know this, but it needs to be explicitly called out that taking that approach to your business relationship…

Caring about the product is not good for your career. You should care about your career, and most of the time, that means that progressing the product should be your goal.

However, when the interests of yourself and your company diverge, don't get stuck holding the bag.

Re: Fuck being productive

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Post by badpun »

_jdzr wrote: post #14
dostoynikov wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. I work in my home country but there is a high unemployment rate in my country. Opportunities are quite limited.

How does entrepreneurship look? Often if there’s high unemployment there’s a window to be the job maker.

> Often if there’s high unemployment there’s a window to be the job maker.

How so? On the one hand, there's plenty of unemployed, desperate people, so you can probably get them as employeed for very cheap - but, on the other hand, people are in dire economical condition, so it's hard to sell them anything. I guess, producing stuff for the international market could work well though.

Re: Fuck being productive

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Post by FredPret »

zwieback wrote: post #20

Yeah, just wait till you're in your fifties and feel like you're also running out of time to do things! For example: "how many more growing seasons do I have to try this or that tomato" or "should I learn Spanish?". On the plus side kids are out of your hair.

As an adult second-language learner, my advice is not to even bother learning a second language unless you have to, or would love to. You can get proficient quickly, but much of the language's beauty will lie in the subtleties which will take decades of effort to learn.

And there's the accent, which you'll never lose.

The best time to learn a language is between 0 and 10 y.o.

Re: Fuck being productive

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Post by danny_taco »

sBqQu3U0wH wrote: post #15

Honestly, I do feel somewhat similar. I work a normal 8-hour day and I am not obsessed with productivity nor I am some kind of anti-work activist, but it just feels like such a waste of time. The only reason I go to work is for money. I don't care about the products we build for someone else (why should I?), nor the technologies used (each of which brings its own challenges and frustrations). If I didn't need to go t…

The main reason we all work for someone else is for money but there is something to be said about the things we build at work and not caring about them. This is something that took me a long time to realize but you need to stop thinking about software as a field and start thinking of it as a skill set. From there figure out what interests you. Wildlife, economics, vehicles, etc. or whatever, and then use your skill set to work on what field of your choosing.

Working on something that doesn't interest you just for the sake of technology is not something that will ever make you happy. If you truly have no interest in anything then that's another problem on itself.

Re: Fuck being productive

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Post by tobbe2064 »

dostoynikov wrote: post #10

I'm the one who posted that post on bearblog and I want to make something clear. My working hours are from 7:30-17:30. But transportation takes an hour in the morning and an hour(at least) in the evening. So I added that two hours too because those two hours are no use to me. I can't do anything in those transportation hours. I might not have made this part clear, sorry for that. But yeah, I know that working time is…

Dude, you are a thinking like an idiot. Spend some time with your wife FFS. Who cares about being productive or playing fucking video games. Your wife ranked at the bottom of you list next to generic friend. You need to reconsider whats actually valuable to you. You need some soul searching
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