As a dev with 3 yoe in canada ( so not a big market like Seattle or SF) what can I do to tell an employer to use me instead?
Communication skills?
‘Nearshoring’ Push Is Fueling Tech Job Demand in Latin America
71–80 of 155 posts
Re: ‘Nearshoring’ Push Is Fueling Tech Job Demand in Latin America
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mexico is going to need to change their labor laws if they want a big piece of this pie. I’ve had a nearshore team in Mexico for four years the people are great for all the reasons mentioned. The gap, however is costs. We’re used to “at-will” employment in the states are used to a “Hire slow, fire fast” paradigm. In MX the cost to fire a full time employee is 3 months severance (regardless of seniority) plus 20 days…
Hope for Mexico they dont follow the unhumane worker rights of the states. Basically europe has the same principles as in Mexico and people in Europe have good lifes.
It’s a trade off: countries that are hard to fire are also hard to hire. So your life is great in Europe once you secured employment, but employers are extra careful and very conservative in hiring.
Re: ‘Nearshoring’ Push Is Fueling Tech Job Demand in Latin America
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you come from a decent Latam metropolis like Buenos Aires or Santiago and make use of the urban facilities (ie you like going out, being close to universities and airports and various activities), anything beyond top-tier US cities is a real step down in quality of life.
dfw has world class restaurants and one of the best airports. and a highly diverse housing stock. you can get a new house at 400k or you can live in a mansion or high rise condo or anywhere in between. recreation is the major downside and the heat but that’s what the airports are for. world class private and public schools, major universities, etc you can also get a mortgage. good luck in buenos aires!
But driving and having to take flights for entertainment are precisely what people hate about American urbanism and one of the bigger reasons why people move back.
Re: ‘Nearshoring’ Push Is Fueling Tech Job Demand in Latin America
#74I have worked with (managed) 6 colleagues from Colombia while I working for a multi-national corporation (one of the big 4 advertising firms). In the same company, I also worked with 12+ coworkers from India. I have to say that I found my colleagues in Colombia just as talented and motivated as the ones in India. In fact, because the coworkers from Colombia are direct hires, I have an easier time managing them as opp…
How did they direct hire them from Columbia, something like Deel?
Curious how they were vetted
Re: ‘Nearshoring’ Push Is Fueling Tech Job Demand in Latin America
#75I can speak for Mexico. We have so much going for it. 1. A robust manufacturing economy (unlike the rest of LATAM) right on the border with the #1 consumer. 2. A culture that is easy to digest for Americans and Europeans alike. 3. People that are welcoming of foreigners, and used to them thanks to decades of tourism. 4. A relatively educated and increasingly educated population. 5. A very comprehensive free trade agr…
What is the situation with cartels? I like the idea of Mexico but tbf I'm terrified of even visiting for tourism because of the shooting/kidnapping stories. For example for the '24 eclipse I'm just sticking to Texas
Around 2006 I travelled around Mexico extensively including drinking heavily and getting on tubes late at night in Mexico City and living in an apartment for a while. Had no problems whatsoever. I was hit by terrorists in Nepal and thieves in Costa Rica which everyone seems to consider safe. Maybe things have changed a lot since then, would be interesting to see the stats.
I'd be way more concerned with gangs as a business person than as a tourist though, but maybe I watched Breaking Bad and Saul too much.
Re: ‘Nearshoring’ Push Is Fueling Tech Job Demand in Latin America
#76This will get big pretty soon. It's been a trend for a while, my last few jobs we've had LATAM contractors. No time zone issues like with overseas and much less of a language and cultural barrier, like basically nonexistent compared to India. Average skill of LATAM devs is still low compared to the US, but they will learn and grow as more work moves there.
Agreed. The skill isn't even an issue - you just hire them for the right roles. Having the same definition of "no" as Americans is huge. Indians have a really tough time saying something isn't going well, or that we shouldn't do a project, for cultural reasons. That's great! Culture is great. For work though, something closer to the culture of the outsourcer makes it a lot easier to deal with. Flights are also so muc…
Are there any pertinent distinctions between Mexico and Columbia?
Re: ‘Nearshoring’ Push Is Fueling Tech Job Demand in Latin America
#77This will get big pretty soon. It's been a trend for a while, my last few jobs we've had LATAM contractors. No time zone issues like with overseas and much less of a language and cultural barrier, like basically nonexistent compared to India. Average skill of LATAM devs is still low compared to the US, but they will learn and grow as more work moves there.
Agreed. The skill isn't even an issue - you just hire them for the right roles. Having the same definition of "no" as Americans is huge. Indians have a really tough time saying something isn't going well, or that we shouldn't do a project, for cultural reasons. That's great! Culture is great. For work though, something closer to the culture of the outsourcer makes it a lot easier to deal with. Flights are also so muc…
Unfortunately I don't feel like south America has the legal system and lack of corruption to really take off.
Re: ‘Nearshoring’ Push Is Fueling Tech Job Demand in Latin America
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed. The skill isn't even an issue - you just hire them for the right roles. Having the same definition of "no" as Americans is huge. Indians have a really tough time saying something isn't going well, or that we shouldn't do a project, for cultural reasons. That's great! Culture is great. For work though, something closer to the culture of the outsourcer makes it a lot easier to deal with. Flights are also so muc…
Are there any pertinent distinctions between Mexico and Columbia?
Colombia
don't worry I made that mistake and one engineer was trying to get my address to send me "the shirt"
Re: ‘Nearshoring’ Push Is Fueling Tech Job Demand in Latin America
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed. The skill isn't even an issue - you just hire them for the right roles. Having the same definition of "no" as Americans is huge. Indians have a really tough time saying something isn't going well, or that we shouldn't do a project, for cultural reasons. That's great! Culture is great. For work though, something closer to the culture of the outsourcer makes it a lot easier to deal with. Flights are also so muc…
Mexico is going to need to change their labor laws if they want a big piece of this pie. I’ve had a nearshore team in Mexico for four years the people are great for all the reasons mentioned. The gap, however is costs. We’re used to “at-will” employment in the states are used to a “Hire slow, fire fast” paradigm. In MX the cost to fire a full time employee is 3 months severance (regardless of seniority) plus 20 days…
Why not just hire the employees are contractors instead?
Re: ‘Nearshoring’ Push Is Fueling Tech Job Demand in Latin America
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is the situation with cartels? I like the idea of Mexico but tbf I'm terrified of even visiting for tourism because of the shooting/kidnapping stories. For example for the '24 eclipse I'm just sticking to Texas
There are 32 US cities, including Huston TX, with a higher homicide rate than Mexico City. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_homicide_rat... Foreigners getting kidnapped is very uncommon. It happens from time to time, although it makes it to the news and they do try to find the kidnappers. School shootings are extremely rare.
I don't think that CDMX is considered a hotbed of cartel activity?