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Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Post by babypuncher »

barrkel wrote: post #19
column wrote: post #7

I am puzzled by the lack of keyboard layouts for Switzerland (we have the cash to spend on such novelties!). Also, no DVORAK? Is this for hackers or not? French Canadian $99 English International $99 German $99 US English $99 French $99 British English $99 Clear ANSI $109 Blank ANSI $109 Black ISO $109 Clear ISO $109

I use blank keycaps on my mechanical keyboard for my Dvorak layout: https://www.keyboardco.com/product/blank-black-filco-104-key... I also don't see the point of printing Dvorak layout. You use Dvorak to speed up your touch typing, and reduce fatigue.

I touch-type, but it is still handy having accurate printing on the key caps when entering key combinations.

It's also incredibly helpful for anyone learning a new keyboard layout.

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Post by exabrial »

One thing I've learned from running an M1 processor is how much memory bandwidth actually matters for my use case.

I don't see this listed anywhere. Anyone have any ideas how this compares to something like an M1?

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Post by mastax »

codedokode wrote: post #57
vladvasiliu wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AFAIK there are two cards: the 2X0 and the 2X1. The 1 only works with (recent enough) Intel CPUs, the 0 works with both. It's my understanding that some things are offloaded to the CPU on the 1 models, which older and non-Intel CPUs don't do.

I don't understand this, does it mean that Intel has put a part of card's hardware into a CPU and uses some non-standard interface between the card and the CPU? If not, then why cannot any other processor process the data? It's just bunch of numbers after all.

> Intel has put a part of card's hardware into a CPU and uses some non-standard interface between the card and the CPU?

Correct.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNVi

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Post by pr0zac »

Taywee wrote: post #9
column wrote: post #7

I am puzzled by the lack of keyboard layouts for Switzerland (we have the cash to spend on such novelties!). Also, no DVORAK? Is this for hackers or not? French Canadian $99 English International $99 German $99 US English $99 French $99 British English $99 Clear ANSI $109 Blank ANSI $109 Black ISO $109 Clear ISO $109

As a long time Dvorak user, I'm always baffled by people wanting visual Dvorak layouts and physically rearranging their keycaps (which is a really bad idea on many keyboards, with cap angle differing by row). Dvorak really speeds up touch typing (edit: hypothetically, or at least makes it more comfortable). If you're looking at your hands while typing, just use qwerty. Dvorak won't help you. You can use Dvorak regard…

I mean yeah, but learning a new layout is a lot easier when the keycaps match. Also if someone who only knows qwerty has to use your computer for whatever reason they can still hunt and peck vs it being completely impossible.

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Post by rgoulter »

Taywee wrote: post #9
column wrote: post #7

I am puzzled by the lack of keyboard layouts for Switzerland (we have the cash to spend on such novelties!). Also, no DVORAK? Is this for hackers or not? French Canadian $99 English International $99 German $99 US English $99 French $99 British English $99 Clear ANSI $109 Blank ANSI $109 Black ISO $109 Clear ISO $109

As a long time Dvorak user, I'm always baffled by people wanting visual Dvorak layouts and physically rearranging their keycaps (which is a really bad idea on many keyboards, with cap angle differing by row). Dvorak really speeds up touch typing (edit: hypothetically, or at least makes it more comfortable). If you're looking at your hands while typing, just use qwerty. Dvorak won't help you. You can use Dvorak regard…

> which is a really bad idea on many keyboards, with cap angle differing by row

Even when keycaps have uniform profile, the 'F' and 'J' keycaps will often have bumps on them. These are the 'homing keys', so that it's easier for the fingers to return to home row.

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Post by jeffbee »

codedokode wrote: post #57
vladvasiliu wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AFAIK there are two cards: the 2X0 and the 2X1. The 1 only works with (recent enough) Intel CPUs, the 0 works with both. It's my understanding that some things are offloaded to the CPU on the 1 models, which older and non-Intel CPUs don't do.

I don't understand this, does it mean that Intel has put a part of card's hardware into a CPU and uses some non-standard interface between the card and the CPU? If not, then why cannot any other processor process the data? It's just bunch of numbers after all.

Yes. Intel has this interface called CNVi that puts only the RF stuff on the card and the rest of it in the SoC. This decouples things so you can swap in a newer radio protocol without having to throw away the rest of the implementation. Intel also markets a parallel line of wireless cards where everything is on a stick, for non-Intel or older Intel platforms.

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Post by rektide »

There's a "Ryzen AI" on these AMD cores that is really a modest sized fpga, supposedly. Linux has been landing some support for interfacing with this- calling it XDNA (on a new "CDX" bus) - but no signs yet that users can program it.

Would be a fun thing to get exposed to users. Fingers crossed that actually happens; I could definitely see this being very vendored up, that it ends up only really running a couple predefined ML workloads.

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Post by sowbug »

column wrote: post #7

I am puzzled by the lack of keyboard layouts for Switzerland (we have the cash to spend on such novelties!). Also, no DVORAK? Is this for hackers or not? French Canadian $99 English International $99 German $99 US English $99 French $99 British English $99 Clear ANSI $109 Blank ANSI $109 Black ISO $109 Clear ISO $109

There is some irony in wanting hardware built "for hackers." Hackers use things in spite of their intended purposes.

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Post by Rebelgecko »

codedokode wrote: post #44
Bairfhionn wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AX201 only works with intel. AX200 should work in the AMD Framework as well. Edit: Info from Intel itself https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000...

Why does it work only with Intel? Isn't WiFi card just an ordinary PCI-Express device?

Some Intel cards offload work onto the CPU (or mobo?)
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