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Gpt4free repo given takedown notice by OpenAI

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Re: Gpt4free repo given takedown notice by OpenAI

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In exactly what respect is it illegal. Keeping in mind that "not complying with a corporation's policies" is not the same as breaking the law.

What part of "private API" is the one you don't understand? We could elaborate.

I wasn't aware companies could, by fiat, declare certain publicly available endpoints private, thereby compelling everyone by force of law to pretend they don't exist.

Re: Gpt4free repo given takedown notice by OpenAI

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In exactly what respect is it illegal. Keeping in mind that "not complying with a corporation's policies" is not the same as breaking the law.

It's still trespassing if the private property owner did not invite you in, even if there wasn't a locked door.

Is it still trespassing if you ask to be let in, and the butler lets you in when he's not supposed to?

Re: Gpt4free repo given takedown notice by OpenAI

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First amendment! Censorship! 2nd amendment for some reason! Yeah in all seriousness people trot out perceived constitutional infringements about 500x times more than it actually happens.

Also they assume the entire world lives in America.

In this case both OpenAI and Microsoft are US companies, so US law applies.

Re: Gpt4free repo given takedown notice by OpenAI

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I was also given a takedown notice by OpenAI for the ChatGPT twitter bot github repo: https://github.com/transitive-bullshit/chatgpt-twitter-bot

This was ~2 months ago, and I'm fortunate enough to have a direct contact at OpenAI who I complained to. He came back promptly and told me it was a mistake and the takedown notice was retracted. I also changed the twitter bot's logo to be purple instead of green to avoid future issues.

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Time and time again. You are protected in your speech from the government . Commercial law does and will still apply. Arbitrary company decisions happen all the time, and GitHub makes it clear that they won’t refrain from deleting repos for whatever reason.

Well that's not correct. You are actually very protected in documenting security flaws, and even republishing them. I am unsure of who you think enforces laws... as far as I know OpenAI doesn't have their own police force yet. They can sue you of course, but they generally can't demand compliance with takedowns in this case without first going to a judge and requesting a court order. There is no "commercial law" unle…

I'm not a lawyer or even an American but that certainly isn't how the DMCA works. The takedown is issued against the hosting company and, if they comply, they have no further liability. If they don't comply, they are liable in court so, of course, they all comply.

Re: Gpt4free repo given takedown notice by OpenAI

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In exactly what respect is it illegal. Keeping in mind that "not complying with a corporation's policies" is not the same as breaking the law.

If someone I didn't grant access broke (in a very smart way) into my house, turned on the lights for a minute and then left, I'd still be pissed and would call it illegal.

The situations aren't really comparable. We're talking about sending a request from a computer to a publicly available API endpoint that Open AI would rather you didn't, and then using the data that endpoint sends in response.

(Somewhat tangential, the "networks as a 3D space you travel around in with locations you visit" analogy does more harm than good. It's not what's happening and it results in muddled thinking.)

Re: Gpt4free repo given takedown notice by OpenAI

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Predictable. You could just come up with an original name and be fine. "GPT4" obviously means the OpenAI product to people. For those ootl, here's the previous thread where OP was given a lot of advice from the HN community to change the name https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35608437

Yep. It’s an affinity scam. It has nothing to do with GPT4. IIRC it’s just some model with a GPT-like interface offered for free. Once they change their name to something that isn't trying to catch GPT4’s sails in an completely dishonest and scummy manner, we can discuss it further. To the CrabLang folks,: this is why you care about trademarks. So when someone does this you can protect your project from scammers. EDI…

The DMCA is not applicable to trademarks.

https://theholmesfirm.com/takedown-notices-why-trademarks-an...

Re: Gpt4free repo given takedown notice by OpenAI

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What part of "private API" is the one you don't understand? We could elaborate.

I wasn't aware companies could, by fiat, declare certain publicly available endpoints private, thereby compelling everyone by force of law to pretend they don't exist.

My bank's website is publicly available. That doesn't mean anyone is free to access my bank account. Just 'cause something is accessible on the internet doesn't mean you have the right to access it. Case law and statute goes back at least to the 1980s on this point.
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