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It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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I know it's controversial during this incredible AI hype cycle on this site, but as a AI skeptic and increasingly neo-Luddite, I've reduced the amount I spend on this site by 90% since the start of the year. If only I could add my userscript on my iOS Firefox to just hide any post containing the words "GPT", "AI" or "LLM", but alas, I guess I will have to be productive instead of slacking off reading HN. I honestly m…

Bitcoin hype will return with the next cycle :)

Hopefully to replace the Web3 / Bitcoin cycle https://hn.curiosity.ai/#/trends?terms=Bitcoin;Web3

Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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I know it's controversial during this incredible AI hype cycle on this site, but as a AI skeptic and increasingly neo-Luddite, I've reduced the amount I spend on this site by 90% since the start of the year. If only I could add my userscript on my iOS Firefox to just hide any post containing the words "GPT", "AI" or "LLM", but alas, I guess I will have to be productive instead of slacking off reading HN. I honestly m…

I see 3 kind of people, all common on HN: - The luddites: it's just hype. - The doomers: AI will kill us all. - The AI indie hackers: dunno about AI, I'm trying to make money with it. Somehow the intersection is right: AI is not really smart, but it will replace a lot of human activity anyhow.

- The realists: what do LLM's actually do, and what are their limits

- The luddites: who is going to benefit from LLM's and who will suffer more?

- The doomers: AI will kill us all

- The children: look at this! look at me! look at this! Wheeeeee!

- The money: how many people can we pay less or not at all thanks to AI

- The scientists: ok, that's cool, but what happens if we ...

Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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That’s fair and I appreciate your response! While I’ve seen things that hint that Bitcoin might be starting to gain traction in high inflation nations commonly located in Africa and South America, we are a long ways out from seeing a Kroger accept Bitcoin. Regardless, crypto bros are the worst and I hate how every bull run we see an avalanche of new coins that all claim to be the solution to all our problems when the…

I can't really argue with investing in BTC or Eth, I probably should have for some portion of my portfolio!

It’s never too late :]!

Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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For what it's worth, and at the risk of sounding like I'm nitpicking, traditional Luddism is not dismissal of technology as overhyped or smoke-and-mirrors. Quite the opposite; the technology is recognized as very real and very impactful. The question instead becomes, "what happens to us, the ones it replaces?". And at least in the original incarnation, given an insufficiently satisfying answer, you smash some looms u…

From a historical standpoint, you're spot on. Neo-Luddism is still opposition to a lot of modern technologies, but for a very disparate set of reasons. For example, many oppose the mass adoption of social media due to perceived mental health and social impacts. Others oppose smart phones and "screen addiction." These things can qualify as "neo-luddism" even though the opposition is not rooted in job displacement. I'v…

Totally aside - but is there an excellent resource you can recommend for learning more/getting started with stage magic?

Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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Here's some criticism of AI for you: • VENDOR LOCKIN • It's possible that OpenAI is managing to establish a permanent competitive edge and will be the next Google. There is/was a lot of rather handwavy assumptions about open source models being competitive thanks to Stability AI and the Facebook leak, and last time I raised red flags about this on HN I got dunked on. But right now it looks more likely that LLMs are t…

after having studied this more and listened to a talk by one of the OpenAI team I think this will actually go away as a problem in the semi-near term future. Is that talk available online? I’m skeptical that they will ever solve the problem of factuality. I’d love to hear their arguments for why I’m wrong.

Sure, here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhiLw5Q_UFg

Summarizing:

1. Obviously you can't completely "solve" truthfulness because people disagree on what is and is not true. But you can go a long way.

2. The models do know what they don't know. Their level of uncertainty is not only expressed in the final token logprobs but also seems to be reified somehow, such that they can express their own level of certainty in words.

3. Many of the problems are introduced by subtle issues introduced during training which effectively teach the AI to guess. One example is by training on QA data sets where the answer is never "I don't know". RLHF introduces its own problems because the human trainers don't know what the model knows, so may reward it for getting a correct answer by guessing.

4. Many failures are caused by lack of access to information. Giving the LLM tools to let it search the web and access other databases can help a lot, and it's relatively easy to do.

5. In some cases you want it to guess. Like, it's much more useful when coding for it to spit out a screenful of code that has one or two minor errors, than to just refuse to try at all because the result might not be perfect.

Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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It does feel a bit like Bitcoin hype, in that I know there's something wrong with it but I can't quite put my finger on it or explain it. But this is why it's also likely to last a long time, just like Bitcoin did, because it's so enticing and yet so difficult to articulate exactly what it is that's wrong. I'm at that level where I'm just smart enough to know something is wrong here, but not smart enough to say what…

> like Bitcoin did You think it's over for Bitcoin?

It surely looks like it is getting there https://hn.curiosity.ai/#/trends?terms=Bitcoin;Web3
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