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Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Post by hinkley »

monster_group wrote: post #9

This is terrible advice. Great that it has worked for the author but it does not mean it's a good idea for everyone. 2 weeks is the standard and as long as you give that you maintain good relations. Most people are not as valuable or important as they like to think they are. I have seen very important people leave / fired and things still go on. (Twitter is still working - isn't it?) Once you tell that you are leavin…

Two weeks is all most recruiters have ever offered me, and some did so begrudgingly. Which is weird because if I say yes that actually makes me a worse hire.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Post by brink »

cat_plus_plus wrote: post #16

LOL, I tried that at Apple, was immediately made to pack my stuff after watch of a security guard and escorted off premises. As if I couldn't copy their stuff first and give notice later if that was my intent. Now obviously, in a mom and pop shop, I would discuss my desire to leave before I even started looking and help find/train my replacement, while they would likewise help me find a new job that better fits my li…

Same thing happened to me - told my boss on a Friday that I had received a job offer with a 55% pay raise and was probably going to take it, so we should think about off-boarding. Later that day my admin rights to the gitlab org were removed, was told that "it was a mistake", and was fired the following Monday.

They also took my $20k bonus that I was supposed to receive months earlier and used it as a carrot on a stick to get me to sign a bunch of legal paperwork releasing all my rights. At least I got the much needed money. I was really underpaid there.

I also lost my best friend who also worked there that decided to side with my boss and the company. lol It was a bad time.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Post by hinkley »

saulpw wrote: post #7

I've generally given a lot of notice as an IC, 2-3 months in some cases. and I have to say, I think it's not been appreciated, not even once. I've tried to spend the time wrapping things up, communicating my tacit knowledge to my coworkers, and writing documentation for things that I've done and created and am responsible for; I'm fairly certain that no one has given my opinions and thoughts any more than a cursory a…

I’m doing wrap up now, and I’ve only just started job hunting. You don’t have to tell them that’s what you’re doing.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Post by ElfinTrousers »

kaon123 wrote: post #21

2 weeks is the standard? I am amazed. In Switzerland where I live, it is 3 full calendar months. And I thought Switzerland is very similar to the USA... My god 2 weeks lol, someone quits and he is gone the next day. How is this legal?

I once quit a job by saying "I don't want to work here anymore" and then walking out the front door. 2 weeks' notice is just a custom.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Post by mym1990 »

kaon123 wrote: post #21

2 weeks is the standard? I am amazed. In Switzerland where I live, it is 3 full calendar months. And I thought Switzerland is very similar to the USA... My god 2 weeks lol, someone quits and he is gone the next day. How is this legal?

The same way that when someone fires you and you're gone the same day?

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Post by adastra22 »

kaon123 wrote: post #21

2 weeks is the standard? I am amazed. In Switzerland where I live, it is 3 full calendar months. And I thought Switzerland is very similar to the USA... My god 2 weeks lol, someone quits and he is gone the next day. How is this legal?

> My god 2 weeks lol, someone quits and he is gone the next day. How is this legal?

How is it legal for this not to be the case? We have constitutional laws against enslavement or indentured servitude here. Nobody can force you to work if you don’t want to. You can quit right now if you want to.

What happens if you stop showing up to work in Switzerland? Do you go to prison?

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Post by heywhatupboys »

brink wrote: post #72
cat_plus_plus wrote: post #16

LOL, I tried that at Apple, was immediately made to pack my stuff after watch of a security guard and escorted off premises. As if I couldn't copy their stuff first and give notice later if that was my intent. Now obviously, in a mom and pop shop, I would discuss my desire to leave before I even started looking and help find/train my replacement, while they would likewise help me find a new job that better fits my li…

Same thing happened to me - told my boss on a Friday that I had received a job offer with a 55% pay raise and was probably going to take it, so we should think about off-boarding. Later that day my admin rights to the gitlab org were removed, was told that "it was a mistake", and was fired the following Monday. They also took my $20k bonus that I was supposed to receive months earlier and used it as a carrot on a sti…

Any company with so little money they are forced to use gasp gitlab strikes fear into the heart

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Post by the_jeremy »

I also categorically disagree with this advice. The people who benefit are not the ones in charge of the decision, and the benefit to your reputation for the ~5 people it really impacts does not outweigh getting to take a stress-free, risk-free sabbatical in between jobs. I have always asked to extend my start date out as far as possible and the new company always pushes back and I end up taking off a few weeks between jobs at most. I am not sacrificing that time for the potential of better parting feelings for a handful of coworkers who take over my stuff, when you should be working toward that lowered bus factor day-to-day, regardless of whether you are planning to leave.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Post by mym1990 »

hinata08 wrote: post #30
kaon123 wrote: post #21

2 weeks is the standard? I am amazed. In Switzerland where I live, it is 3 full calendar months. And I thought Switzerland is very similar to the USA... My god 2 weeks lol, someone quits and he is gone the next day. How is this legal?

I'm also amazed by the stories of managers who immediately layoff workers who said they will quit. Why ? Is this like some "Oh no you're not deciding to quit, I decided first you're fired, I call dibs !" ? The dude said they will leave anyway. And doing the layoff will just allow him to leave without extensively teaching someone else. This should be illegal as well.

This is sometimes done as a security concern to keep employees from swiping data or causing havoc. An employer may also assume that an employee with 2 weeks left will have tanking productivity, so why keep them around? The good employees will try to wrap things up and do knowledge transfer, but this certainly isn't going to be the majority of people.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Post by adastra22 »

tiahura wrote: post #50
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In most US states, you can go into the boss' office and say "I quit" and walk out the door.

All states

Yeah, unless your job is the military. This is a 14th amendment issue.
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