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Nintendo Hacker Freed, Now Owes Them 25-30% of Salary for Life

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Re: Nintendo Hacker Freed, Now Owes Them 25-30% of Salary for Life

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What do you think is an appropriate punishment in this case? I see your point about nintendo still printing money but unfortunatelly that's the reality of our society. Apparently Nintendo made some 15B in revenue last year. Would that punishment be ok if they made 5B? Or 500M? At what point does the punishment become acceptable?

The 40 months in prison?

I personally don’t believe he should have done jail time at all.

Re: Nintendo Hacker Freed, Now Owes Them 25-30% of Salary for Life

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What do you think is an appropriate punishment in this case? I see your point about nintendo still printing money but unfortunatelly that's the reality of our society. Apparently Nintendo made some 15B in revenue last year. Would that punishment be ok if they made 5B? Or 500M? At what point does the punishment become acceptable?

Appropriate punishment depends on what kind of life the man has and what kind of life does the society want him to have. Apparently debt slavery is fair in a situation where no real damage was done to anyone.

If it depends on what kind of life the man has and what kind of life does the society want him to have, since you are part of society, what is in your opinion an appropriate punishment?

Because I agree with you i principle but details are complicated in these situations.

Re: Nintendo Hacker Freed, Now Owes Them 25-30% of Salary for Life

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What do you think is an appropriate punishment in this case? I see your point about nintendo still printing money but unfortunatelly that's the reality of our society. Apparently Nintendo made some 15B in revenue last year. Would that punishment be ok if they made 5B? Or 500M? At what point does the punishment become acceptable?

> Apparently Nintendo made some 15B in revenue last year. Would that punishment be ok if they made 5B? Or 500M? At what point does the punishment become acceptable? Honestly, I don't see how this form of punishment would ever be acceptable. This is a life-long debt we're talking about. This is the kind of punishment I might imagine in "you destroyed a town's water supply and all the newborns died" territory. Companie…

Well, you raise a good point but I think we should correct in the opposite direction. Companies should be held accountable, I 100% agree with you. That is definitely a problem.

Re: Nintendo Hacker Freed, Now Owes Them 25-30% of Salary for Life

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Just to be clear, this is not indentured servitude. If he somehow manages to pay back the multimillion dollar damages award that he owes them, he would be free and clear. This is more like a cap on how much of his salary will go toward paying off this debt. > With $14.5 million dollars in damages to his name, Bowser may have been released from prison, but the looming specter on Nintendo still stands tall. As Bowser e…

> Just to be clear, this is not indentured servitude. If he somehow manages to pay back the multimillion dollar damages award that he owes them, he would be free and clear. This is more like a cap on how much of his salary will go toward paying off this debt.

A distinction without a difference, it seems. Very few people will earn $14 million over their lifetimes.

Re: Nintendo Hacker Freed, Now Owes Them 25-30% of Salary for Life

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Arguably it's a more realistic view of the punishment.

Yeah, is a 53-year-old convicted criminal going to make $48–58 million during the rest of his lifetime? I have my doubts.

He "only" has to make $14M.

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I'm sure that difference is very important to him.

I've no idea if it is, but there's a big difference between a bounded amount of money and a potentially infinite amount of money earned. If he has a startup that goes somewhere, or he wins the lottery, potentially he can be out from under this in one situation, or not in the other

$14M might as well be infinite for the vast majority of people.

Re: Nintendo Hacker Freed, Now Owes Them 25-30% of Salary for Life

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I've no idea if it is, but there's a big difference between a bounded amount of money and a potentially infinite amount of money earned. If he has a startup that goes somewhere, or he wins the lottery, potentially he can be out from under this in one situation, or not in the other

$14M might as well be infinite for the vast majority of people.

Quick calculation says it'd take me and my wife about 100 years to pay it off if we don't spend money on anything else.

Re: Nintendo Hacker Freed, Now Owes Them 25-30% of Salary for Life

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Just to be clear, this is not indentured servitude. If he somehow manages to pay back the multimillion dollar damages award that he owes them, he would be free and clear. This is more like a cap on how much of his salary will go toward paying off this debt. > With $14.5 million dollars in damages to his name, Bowser may have been released from prison, but the looming specter on Nintendo still stands tall. As Bowser e…

If he moved to another country (could be difficult with the criminal record, but some countries won’t care, especially since it was a non-violent crime), the legal system in some countries would refuse to enforce this, either explicitly (their courts will rule the debt is invalid) or implicitly (he doesn’t pay and the authorities refuse to do anything about it)

Re: Nintendo Hacker Freed, Now Owes Them 25-30% of Salary for Life

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Copyright law is so archaic. Going to jail for “pirating games” is just absurd to me. Nintendo and backers of copyright law clearly using this guy as an example to not fuck with our wares or else we will send our multimillion dollar legal team at you. Copyright and patent law is holding the west back. Can’t create a product without stepping on some patent trolls alleged “IP”

So videogame piracy should be allowed? This might act as a slight disincentive to making new games.

There's a vast middle ground between anarchy on one hand and incarceration and lifetime wage garnishment on the other.

Don't do that to yourself. You should know better than to present false dichotomies.

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