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Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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Is headscale becoming a bigger threat? Seems like they're trying to offer a better on ramp so folks don't try and self host out of the gate.

If I was a threat they wouldn’t have allowed changing of servers for their mobile app, truth is that not everyone wants to self host everything

Or they would not be supporting the development of Headscale.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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I don't expose anything to the internet and use it to access my Synology or my Unraid NAS, to stream Plex music to Plexamp, to check my home network when I am away, and in some cases I have used it to circumvent filtering Proxies by tunneling HTTP/HTTPS.

Wow, I didn't realize they produce a Synology package!

It exists, but I am accessing the LAN via a subnet router.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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I see a lot of love for Tailscale, but I'm curious what people use Tailscale for? Is it mostly to access services running on an internal network? Do you use it for work or for fun? The use case I can see is streaming from my personal Plex server from anywhere outside my home, but maybe I'm not thinking big enough.

- Entire site-to-site tunneling/routing. I didn't have to do anything for my parents I just dropped a subnet router at their place. - Access my services/servers at home from anywhere in the world. Friendly mobile apps as well that allow the same. - In cloud environments (for work and fun), don't even bother provisioning public IPs and having to deal with those firewall rules, just use Tailscale - https://tailscale.co…

"- I have a bootmod3 WiFi adapter plugged into my street/track car with a combo 5G/Linux unit in the car connected to my Tailscale that streams continuous telemetry about the car whenever its turned on. I could in theory re-flash the ECU via this."

Do you have a writeup or more details you can share around this? This sounds interesting.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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I see a lot of love for Tailscale, but I'm curious what people use Tailscale for? Is it mostly to access services running on an internal network? Do you use it for work or for fun? The use case I can see is streaming from my personal Plex server from anywhere outside my home, but maybe I'm not thinking big enough.

Accessing servers without the need to open their ssh port to the public internet. This is the main point for me. Such functionality could be achieved with other means of course but tailscale makes it so easy and reliable that I don't think any other solution can compete with it.

After I install the tailscale client on the server and do some very simple configuration on the tailscale web app to identify the new node I know I'll be able to access it no matter of any firewalls the node may be behind!

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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I'm a big Tailscale proponent, implementing it at work in early 2020. But for us I'm not sure this is great news. We have a small Tailnet of 5 users, paying $30 for the Team plan. If we went for Starter we'd save $18, but loose a lot of cool things Tailscale has come out with recently that we have been looking at, like user/group level ACLs, ACL Gitops,Tailscale SSH and Tailscale Funnel. Alternatively we'd pay $36 fo…

I'm in the same boat, ssh is our most used feature, also quite an odd decision to give the free plan more features than the Starter.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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I see a lot of love for Tailscale, but I'm curious what people use Tailscale for? Is it mostly to access services running on an internal network? Do you use it for work or for fun? The use case I can see is streaming from my personal Plex server from anywhere outside my home, but maybe I'm not thinking big enough.

You can setup an exit node on your home network where you run a Pi-hole and get the domain blocking on the go.

This is the game changer.

I have my first year Pi running Diet Pi with Adguard Home and was just happy that I found a use for such an old machine that I was considering throwing.

The speed test in Diet Pi said that the latest Pis can complete them in a few seconds versus the minutes it took mine to setup, so figured it would be useless but had been working flawlessly as a dns at home and blocking all ads on all devices.

Adding Tailscale took it to the next level and now all my devices have ad blocking on LTE, public wifi, friends houses, everywhere.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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Rock on!

> Rock on! That's a really odd response, to be honest. I was expecting something around features you only get with Tailscale, scaling issues with Headscale, something to sell me on paying $6 a user.

Are you looking to become a customer?

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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Rock on!

> Rock on! That's a really odd response, to be honest. I was expecting something around features you only get with Tailscale, scaling issues with Headscale, something to sell me on paying $6 a user.

The value of paying Tailscale is

- You don't have to maintain the infra yourself. It is maintained by system experts, vs the necessity to learn such knowledge yourself

- You are going to get features earlier, as Tailscale is the leading implementation, and Headscale is trying to maintain compatibility

- You have a promise of a certain level of support depending on your plan, rather than relying on an open source community with no responsibility to provide support

It feels like Tailscale isn't trying to gatekeep the technology, they are trying to sell all the things that simplify/provide value for people who would like to use the technology.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

- Entire site-to-site tunneling/routing. I didn't have to do anything for my parents I just dropped a subnet router at their place. - Access my services/servers at home from anywhere in the world. Friendly mobile apps as well that allow the same. - In cloud environments (for work and fun), don't even bother provisioning public IPs and having to deal with those firewall rules, just use Tailscale - https://tailscale.co…

"- I have a bootmod3 WiFi adapter plugged into my street/track car with a combo 5G/Linux unit in the car connected to my Tailscale that streams continuous telemetry about the car whenever its turned on. I could in theory re-flash the ECU via this." Do you have a writeup or more details you can share around this? This sounds interesting.

lol it sounds like a line from a Fast & Furious movie

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

- Entire site-to-site tunneling/routing. I didn't have to do anything for my parents I just dropped a subnet router at their place. - Access my services/servers at home from anywhere in the world. Friendly mobile apps as well that allow the same. - In cloud environments (for work and fun), don't even bother provisioning public IPs and having to deal with those firewall rules, just use Tailscale - https://tailscale.co…

> Entire site-to-site tunneling/routing. I didn't have to do anything for my parents I just dropped a subnet router at their place. Can you elaborate? What do your parents need tailscale for? I mean my parents have internet purely by the telco dropping a router at their place and it just works, what is my family missing?

This is no longer a problem for me since I switched my parents from windows to mac, but remote desktop login to troubleshoot their problems would be a huge bonus.

Other cool things I could do if I dropped a raspberry-pi w/ tailscale onto their network:

- Need another public IP to test something? Route my laptop through their network for awhile.

- share files with them or backup some of their devices to a fileserver I control.

- send print jobs to their printer, I don't keep a printer but they do because.. and I shit you not, they hate doing crosswords on their ipads, they print the damn things out every morning and work them on paper.

- Put it on their phones and have them route their requests through one of my exit nodes.

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