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The One Thing I Can’t Stand About Teaching English in Japan (2019)

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Re: The One Thing I Can’t Stand About Teaching English in Japan (2019)

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> I prefer someone blunt and clear who will say what they mean. I don’t care if they don’t say it in the nicest of ways, as long as they say it. Speak your heart! If that's the author's preference (fair enough), then Japan is not the right place for them (in that respect). Intercultural Communication 101. Either learn to deal with it and stop taking it personally, or move somewhere else. (Or, sure, go on a one-person…

And the fact is Japanese people have no problem understanding what people are really saying. Things can be bluntly stated in Japanese even if their direct transliteration isn't blunt in English.

Transliteration means taking the symbols of one readable language and converting them to another set of symbols. Like 'Владимир Ильич Ульянов' in Russian Cyrillic becoming 'Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov' in English Latin script.

I think what you meant was 'literal translation'. Sorry if this seems like a nitpick but these terms mean completely different things.

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Can OP just keep charging them? As in build in a recurring rate into the contract.

If they ghost, you keep charging them until they decide to cancel the contract.

Just like how a doctor will charge a cancellation fee, you could probably do that as well / instead.

Or up-front payments for x classes.

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What do they say if they are really sick, can't make the lesson, and will indeed contact you later?

GP mentioned it; they apologize profusely.

I'm curious about what constitutes a profuse apology. Does it include long explanations? Or does it take into account how the other party was inconvenienced?

I'd love to know this. Are there any great books about Japanese culture?

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That's not true. There's no magical bat-signal that only Japanese people can read, and there are lots of contexts that even Japanese people talk about as ridiculously subtle to the point of fiendishness (funny example: I think it's at Bishamon-do temple in Kyoto, where there's a room that was used to "greet" guests who had no chance of meeting with anyone of importance -- the way you "knew" this was because the fusum…

This is a wise comment and even applies along the north-south gradient in the USA. My family moved from New Haven CT (Yankee land) to Memphis TN—the latter being the heart of the South or the buckle of the Bible Belt. In Memphis if you ask a question or invite some one over to a party and they answer “I’ll try” that is a very polite and standard version of “Hell no”. We have lived here 34 years and I am still catchin…

This exact same difference exists between the North and the South of the Netherlands and also Germany. Even though it’s only a few hours away by car. In the US, the South is more explicit I guess? Here the North is more explicit.

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Just take a deposit. Don't pay it back until they tell you they quit.

Homo economicus strikes again. Will the deposit make up for the emotional hurt?

It may overcompensate... Call me cruel but I'd have a very meta chuckle that it was economically worth X to the student to not have to message me!

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This is actually a great solution to the problem.

From your username I figure you might know: are any other services sold this way in Japan? I ask because if not then it's going to be difficult to go first. If yes, any idea how it influences behaviour?

Apartments come to mind. In my business we also help restaurants take deposits for reservations, which is now becoming the market standard.

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Judging from the number of downvotes, either I am even more socially inept than I ever thought before, or this is a genuine cultural difference.

They don't owe an explanation, but if two people have an ongoing relationship the one ending it should say "it's over" or "bye", not just leave the other hanging. It's just a basic level of respect to not waste others time with wondering if it's over or not.

People should also be expected to be able to read the context and not need explicit confirmation or denial. It's rude and pushy to chase people and try to pressure them into saying yes and force them into saying no.

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Did you go to school in Japan? If not, then did it not occur to you that a Japanese student studying abroad would need either a work permit or a marriage visa to stay? She probably was expecting you to propose and since you didn't she left because she had to.

I went to school in the US and she is not actually from Japan. Both her parents were from Japan though despite her being born in the US. It could be a coincidence and have nothing to do with this Japanese cultural phenomenon, but it seemed pretty relevant to what I experience.

Good to know. Cheers mate.

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GP mentioned it; they apologize profusely.

I'm curious about what constitutes a profuse apology. Does it include long explanations? Or does it take into account how the other party was inconvenienced? I'd love to know this. Are there any great books about Japanese culture?

I'd imagine it's the difference between businesslike sorry-not-sorry stuff like: "We're sorry to inform you that we are not moving ahead with your application", and actually trying to apologize to someone. The not-actually-apologetic stuff is basically just normal parts of polite speech for the culture, actual apology with emotion or intent to make redress or request forgiveness is very different.
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