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Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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What do they mean by Fast? In terms of website performance?

I'm guessing they mean that, but according to ForgePerf, GitHub is better in that regard. https://forgeperf.org/

fwiw there's a bug in the system which updates this page and it has grown rather stale. (author of this website)

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Services don't need to handle every single use case to be viable alternatives. GitHub does host proprietary software, but it is most well known for being a place to collaborate on free and open source software. Codeberg addresses this primary use case in a more focused way than GitHub intends to, and because of this, Codeberg is an excellent alternative to GitHub.

This sort of myopic, self-important, holier-than-thou perspective is why the open source community is so rarely successful in anything it tries to do for itself. Whatever you think Github's most known or most useful featureset is, the fact of the matter is it dominates because they don't draw philosophical lines in the sand and exclude people as a result. It's a big tent, all are welcome, and as a result, it has near…

You haven't explained why drawing a philosophical line is somehow "self-important" and "holier-than-thou perspective". They are targetting like minded people which is their prerogative, if that doesn't appeal to you then that's too bad. But when you say this moral stand is why they won't ever have market reach like Github, you are presuming that they even want that (maybe because of the implicit assumption that everyone do want that). But a cursory look at their landing page shows they are a non-profit and do not want market share or your "contribution" if it's not coming from right place. Your rant assumes they don't understand the economics, but clearly they do - they just don't care. But why is that shooting themselves in the foot?

To be a bit more cynical, Github alternatives are a dime a dozen. It's not clear to me that their market segmentation is hurting them. It seems to me that it's the only thing that's putting them on the map, otherwise they would just be a drop in the ocean.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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This sort of myopic, self-important, holier-than-thou perspective is why the open source community is so rarely successful in anything it tries to do for itself. Whatever you think Github's most known or most useful featureset is, the fact of the matter is it dominates because they don't draw philosophical lines in the sand and exclude people as a result. It's a big tent, all are welcome, and as a result, it has near…

> all are welcome Except for those who don't want their code to be used for training proprietary AI models.

I read the Copilot terms, they only use public repos for AI training. Private repos are not used for training. I've since privated all of my non-forked repos.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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post #63

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I'm guessing they mean that, but according to ForgePerf, GitHub is better in that regard. https://forgeperf.org/

fwiw there's a bug in the system which updates this page and it has grown rather stale. (author of this website)

Good to know. Do you think Codeberg is actually faster than GitHub now?

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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post #19

> Our mission is to support the creation and development of Free Software; therefore we only allow repos licensed under an OSI/FSF-approved license. For more details see Licensing article. However, we sometimes tolerate repositories that aren't perfectly licensed and focus on spreading awareness on the topic of improper FLOSS licensing and its issues. If you aren't doing FOSS software and aren't "tolerated" you aren'…

Not an alternative for everybody

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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People don't seem to realize the risk of centralizing on a single provider and solution. Currently, it's like 90% of the FOSS projects are hosted on GitHub. It all seems smooth and all until one day you log in to their platform and find yourself essentially shunned-off from collaborating on FOSS scene [1] . I'm grateful Codeberg, sourcehut and other alternatives exist. One nitpick from my experience: Codeberg's stati…

We do realise, Sourceforge.

It turns out most don't care.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Love to see alternatives to these big code hosting solutions! Personally I'm donating to sourcehut, mainly in "support your local" -mentality, and definitely recommend people doing the same for your favourite projects . But that being said, for most of my coding, I have a simple self-hosted cgit + gitolite setup that suits my needs exactly! Unfortunately, cannot get completely rid of GitHub due to work and open source necessitites.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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post #62
post #59

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You do if they are advertising as an alternative - that is specifically inviting comparisons.

They advertise themselves as an alternative to GitHub for FOSS projects. Nothing wrong with that.

The title of this HN post doesn't reflect that, Codeberg itself is clear about that though. Instead it should be "Codeberg - Fast Open Source Github Alternative for FOSS projects"

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Also, since resilience is key and avoiding dependence on centralized service, Radicle is high-quality open source project building a decentralized git hosting service:

https://radicle.xyz/

Disclaimer: I just love what they do, I am not part of the team and don't hold any of their tokens.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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This sort of myopic, self-important, holier-than-thou perspective is why the open source community is so rarely successful in anything it tries to do for itself. Whatever you think Github's most known or most useful featureset is, the fact of the matter is it dominates because they don't draw philosophical lines in the sand and exclude people as a result. It's a big tent, all are welcome, and as a result, it has near…

What if your goal is not being successful in term of absolute number of users no matter what but instead to promote something? It's fortunate that sometimes people refuse to build big tents and instead push for a better world. > They need to understand that contributions and use are driven by utility and convenience and economics, not morality You are wrong. GNU's whole existence is for moral reasons, and their tools…

>It's fortunate that sometimes people refuse to build big tents and instead push for a better world.

In general I prefer if people keep their politics out of IT infrastructure. We don't all agree on what makes the world better and what makes it worse.

That said, I don't have a problem with this particular project. It's absolutely fine to create a git hosting solution specifically for open source as open source is itself a very big tent spanning a wide range of ideologies and groups that are otherwise hostile towards each other.

It is in fact commercial closed source software that is increasingly subject to political restrictions that are justified by supposedly making the world a better place.

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