The six separate units are:
1. Cloud Intelligence
2. Taobao Commerce
3. Local Services
4. Cainiao Smart Logistics
5. Global Digital Commerce
6. Digital Media and Entertainment Group
Alibaba breaks itself up in six
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Re: Alibaba breaks itself up in six
#72Great move. This will increase local competition and wages, diversify ideas and design, and make shareholders more money than as a single entity. As with Standard Oil and AT&T. The U.S. should continue investigating splitting up Alphabet, Apple, Meta, and Microsoft.
No it won't. It will reduce competition. Are you going to now compete with the official government supported entity?
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How would you split Apple? How would you split Meta (would you start charging for WhatsApp)?
Apple into hardware and software. Microsoft into OS and other software and cloud. Amazon into cloud and web store(s). Google into ads and web software that serves ads.
I'd say you could split Google into at least, cloud, ads, search and workspace (including mail).
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Apple into hardware and software. Microsoft into OS and other software and cloud. Amazon into cloud and web store(s). Google into ads and web software that serves ads.
It doesn't make sense to split Apple into hardware and software since the integration and simplicity that comes from it is the very thing that makes Apple unique.
They use that line of argument specifically to avoid antitrust scrutiny.
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Apple into hardware and software. Microsoft into OS and other software and cloud. Amazon into cloud and web store(s). Google into ads and web software that serves ads.
Microsoft OS is too powerful, split it into Kernel and user space
That would be a competitive OS, you get a good kernel with good hardware support and you can put a decent DE on top of it like KDE.
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I'm not an expert on this, but from what I gather this all leads back to a power struggle between Jack Ma and Xi Jinping. Ma was ready to go public with AliPay and in the build up to it made a speech that criticised the government regulation as being out of date. This was viewed as a challenge to the governments power. Over the next few months the government moved to tighten regulations on companies like AliPay and d…
> So people are hoping that now the worst of it is done What is the basis of this hope?
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#78Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35339668
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Apple into hardware and software. Microsoft into OS and other software and cloud. Amazon into cloud and web store(s). Google into ads and web software that serves ads.
Why not Apple into Products and Services? Products being - for example products being iPhone and iOS and services being iCloud, Apple Music, Apple TV+, etc.
I actually really like that. Would force a (semi?-)public compatibility layer that allows other competitors to enter the space. If you want to back your iPhone up to Google Drive, you do you.
App Store would also likely end up in Services, which would also open up multi-app store compatibility. It's almost too good of a solution.
Re: Alibaba breaks itself up in six
#80Great move. This will increase local competition and wages, diversify ideas and design, and make shareholders more money than as a single entity. As with Standard Oil and AT&T. The U.S. should continue investigating splitting up Alphabet, Apple, Meta, and Microsoft.
How would you split Apple? How would you split Meta (would you start charging for WhatsApp)?
I probably wouldn't break up Apple myself, but would require lifting the ban on other web browser engines and app stores on all operating systems.
For Alphabet and Meta, I would likely pursue criminal charges for conspiracy to fix prices in online ad auctions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi_Blue