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Compostable fast-food packaging can emit volatile PFAS

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Post by throw_away1525 »

dangwhy wrote: post #58
tectonic wrote: post #7

Just. Stop. Putting. Teflon. On. Everything. Figuring out what does and does not have PFAS on it to protect my family is exhausting and infuriating. I’ve emailed with manufacturers, sent stuff to labs; basically, no one seems to know how much materials like this are used on every day products.

can someone recommend a pan to make eggs in the morning without sticking or having to put tons of grease.

Poach them or boil them if you don't want to add fat to fry them in. But are you sure that frying them in butter or lard is actually bad for you?

Re: Compostable fast-food packaging can emit volatile PFAS

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Post by numpad0 »

dangwhy wrote: post #58
tectonic wrote: post #7

Just. Stop. Putting. Teflon. On. Everything. Figuring out what does and does not have PFAS on it to protect my family is exhausting and infuriating. I’ve emailed with manufacturers, sent stuff to labs; basically, no one seems to know how much materials like this are used on every day products.

can someone recommend a pan to make eggs in the morning without sticking or having to put tons of grease.

Just put tons of grease, cut excess elsewhere.

Re: Compostable fast-food packaging can emit volatile PFAS

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Post by beebeepka »

janosdebugs wrote: post #26

So, when you order from the average restaurant, you get a meal made of pre-portioned frozen ingredients containing sometimes questionable substances and you also get poisoned by the packaging. And the restaurant industry is complaining. Makes sense. (If you are a German-speaker, ZDFbesseresser is a worthwhile channel to watch. We basically all but stopped going to or ordering from restaurants.)

We're not big on ordering food, or take out in general, but I've been thinking about just providing our own metal/glass containers instead of wasting aluminium and paper. My wife is against it. I think she finds this idea embarrassing but I don't care.

Re: Compostable fast-food packaging can emit volatile PFAS

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Post by Ekaros »

jacobsimon wrote: post #5

Dumb question but…why do humans keep using toxic chemicals for cooking and storing food? Surely we can find something edible.

Because coming up with something light that can resist heat(food tends to be hot), moist or straight up water and fats and oils is hard. Plate or heavy container isn't that hard. But something that can be transported or even used to store stuff fore even couple days or weeks is quite hard task.

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Post by 542458 »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #37
throwaway892238 wrote: post #15

You know, we really don't need this disposable culture. Everyone just expects to get a disposable container everywhere they go (in the West, anyway). But we don't need disposable everything. People can carry their own set of utensils, and even their own food packaging; it's not uncommon for people to bring their own tupperwares to restaurants (wrap it in a decorative cloth to be fancy). Restaurants could also give ou…

we cam have a country-wide system of reusable packaging that you can get from any takeaway, abd can return to any takeawatly for a refund

I somewhat agree, but it's probably more complex than that - We have a country-wide system of reusable aluminum and glass containers that can be returned for refund and a significant portion of the population can't be bothered and just chucks them in the trash (or worse, the gutter). Lots of people don't respond to incentives well.

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Post by goodpoint »

blondie9x wrote: post #60

Pick your poison. Micro-plastics or PFAS. All consumption has a trade off. Some are worse than others. Micro-plastics are causing major endocrine system disruption in youth. Testosterone levels and estrogen levels are getting all our of whack and causing gender related diversification issues that will grow exponentially over time with micro-plastic consumption levels increasing. I would pick PFAS.

How about neither?!

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Post by linhns »

jiggywiggy wrote: post #18
tectonic wrote: post #7

Just. Stop. Putting. Teflon. On. Everything. Figuring out what does and does not have PFAS on it to protect my family is exhausting and infuriating. I’ve emailed with manufacturers, sent stuff to labs; basically, no one seems to know how much materials like this are used on every day products.

It's not just teflon. It's most likely also going to be it's successors. Its going to deemed safe for a while till it's not. Most properties desired while at the same time being cheap and durable will leak and will not play nice and with our cells or hormone system. Especially because the goal of most of these chemical is to be cheaper the cheap. (Otherwise we would just use glass)

I have been saying this for far too long. Surprisingly, after many legal battles the big chems like DuPont still grows every year. Guess that most people pay no attention to these subtle killers.
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