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Re: Wavelength

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Post by illiarian »

ftio wrote: post #35

Sounds like the fundamental bet here is that design and privacy are meaningful differentiators in this market. With regard to design, Wavelength's particular, native aesthetic might have a certain kind of emotional appeal to old-school Mac and iOS users (including me), but fundamentally its conversation view works a lot like Discord's, which also supports threads and basic replies. I don't think they're going to win…

> Wavelength's particular, native aesthetic might have a certain kind of emotional appeal to old-school Mac and iOS users

It's not just old school. It's a "Mac-assed Mac app" [1]. Unfortunately even Apple themselves have stopped caring about making highly polished native Mac/iOS-assed apps. And that could be a huge differentiator if it wasn't just indie developers embracing this, but the platform itself.

> In fact, I think their focus on "nativeness" could inhibit feature competitiveness down the line.

Wat? Half-assed designs isn't "feature competitiveness".

[1] https://daringfireball.net/linked/2020/03/20/mac-assed-mac-a...

Re: Wavelength

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Post by teddyh »

wokwokwok wrote: post #60
braingenious wrote: post #56

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/sigh… How is being forced to be civil so outrageous that it’s worth even mentioning? The fixation on unmoderated freedom of speech is… obsessive. If they make a nice community for people who wanna talk to each other on those terms, good for them. Maybe it’s nice. Maybe it’s a heavily moderated echo chamber. Maybe it’s not for you, that’s fine. What do you get by standing on the sidelines going “that’s abhorrent! Dea…

It’s the “Real Names” policy which is arguably the more problematic of the two:

https://geekfeminism.fandom.com/wiki/Who_is_harmed_by_a_%22R...

Re: Wavelength

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Post by rvense »

buro9 wrote: post #53

It's a forum. On a mobile device. And called a messaging app. But it's a forum.

Zulip, too, has done a similar thing for a while, I think, with threads in categories. The UI is a little more chat-derived than most forums, but there's an obvious connection.

It's good. I hope it becomes more a popular thing.

Re: Wavelength

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Post by mordae »

> Groups → Threads → Messages for each thread

Is what Zulip does. And it works great. Even for large orgs.

Re: Wavelength

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Post by thot_experiment »

wokwokwok wrote: post #60
braingenious wrote: post #56

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/sigh… How is being forced to be civil so outrageous that it’s worth even mentioning? The fixation on unmoderated freedom of speech is… obsessive. If they make a nice community for people who wanna talk to each other on those terms, good for them. Maybe it’s nice. Maybe it’s a heavily moderated echo chamber. Maybe it’s not for you, that’s fine. What do you get by standing on the sidelines going “that’s abhorrent! Dea…

"use your real name and just be civil" is great if you're in a position of power, a classic move to shut down people with legitimate grievances and create an echo chamber for privilege, people can build whatever they want, but it doesn't make it not cringe as hell

there's such a deep history of this approach being used to silence minorities in this country

Re: Wavelength

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Post by etchalon »

hota_mazi wrote: post #49
etchalon wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plenty of services managed to build large user bases before being on Android. Instagram comes to mind: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Instagram

Plenty more floundered because of that shortsightedness. Surely you realize that picking one of the most successful apps created this past decade is not the resounding endorsement you think it is.

Surely you realize they're far from the only one, and just happened to have a wiki entry with a timeline that proved my point?

Re: Wavelength

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Post by wslh »

IMHO the core point is John Gruber equity, so it is basically a business promotion not an article: "Not only was my feedback warmly received, it begat a series of discussions that culminated in my gladly accepting a position as an official adviser to the company, in exchange for a small amount of equity. I’m happy to disclose this now, and will continue to disclose it when writing about Wavelength henceforth.".

The disclosure was made almost exactly in the middle of a long article. Not at the beginning.

Excuse me but gentlemen don't do that.

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