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I hope it's possible to fit a pointing stick (TrackPoint) keyboard within that 3.7mm, and that someone first- or third-party makes one. I'm keen to try replacing my ThinkPad with a Framework as soon as that's available, but not before.
Years using the trackpoint gave me carpal tunnel. Try not to use it exclusively.
I always use tables that my elbows rest on the table.
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>what surprise me is that a Windows 11 Pro licence cost 259 Euro. Micro$oft still make a lot of money with windonws =) Not really. Windows 11 Pro retail is $199 today which might sound steep but in comparison Windows XP Pro retail was $299 in 2001 which adjusted for inflation would be $500 today. Ouch! Windows 95 retailed at a whopping $205 in '95 or ~$400 in today's money, while a retail Win 11 Home is $139 now. So…
They make money on OS ads now to subsidize the cost
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Are there any 13" laptops on the market with more than 4 ports? None that come to my mind. My macbook air has only 2 x USB C and I've never come across a situation where I needed more. For a 13" 4 ports is more than most people require and it wouldn't make sense for a small start up to only target extremely niche use cases.
I have an Acer travelmate spin b3, which is a 11" convertible laptop. Left side: * barrel jack charging port * HDMI * microSD slot * USB-C (also usable for charging) * Gigabit ethernet Right side: * USB-A * 3.5mm jack Even discounting the microSD slot and the barrel jack, this is 5 ports. On a 11" laptop. Granted, it's not exactly thin, but I really don't care.
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Are there any 13" laptops on the market with more than 4 ports? None that come to my mind. My macbook air has only 2 x USB C and I've never come across a situation where I needed more. For a 13" 4 ports is more than most people require and it wouldn't make sense for a small start up to only target extremely niche use cases.
I have an Acer travelmate spin b3, which is a 11" convertible laptop. Left side: * barrel jack charging port * HDMI * microSD slot * USB-C (also usable for charging) * Gigabit ethernet Right side: * USB-A * 3.5mm jack Even discounting the microSD slot and the barrel jack, this is 5 ports. On a 11" laptop. Granted, it's not exactly thin, but I really don't care.
Maybe the Framework could have squeezed in some more ports if they weren’t customizable, but I prefer the flexibility.
why did they butcher the Entry key instead of making the tab key narrower?
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That would be an extremely niche use case. Can't imagine any scenario needing more than 2-3 x USB A ports outdoors. In any case it would make much more sense to use a dock.
Niche? One for the keyboard, one for the mouse. That's a normal computer, if you believe wires are better than Bluetooth.
And it's not like mouses and keyboards need a 4Gbps connection to the host. Plug them into a tiny hub. You're already lugging a keyboard and mouse around, why not a hub too?
why did they butcher the Entry key instead of making the tab key narrower?
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I want framework to succeed and they are targeting folks who want sleek and customizable computers (which they’ve nailed) but compared to a thinkpad the build quality isn’t great.
To be fair, ThinkPad quality from Lenovo doesn't come close to what it was when IBM was making them. I've had everything from screen backlight bleed, to coil whine, to recently, key caps popping off and switches breaking. This is on top-of-the-line models. At the end of the day, it's just plastic. Nice plastic, but plastic, nonetheless. After decades of sticking exclusively to ThinkPads, these new Frameworks look ver…
Sure, but laptops back then were also massively thicker and heavier so engineers had more freedom and less restrictions from the design/marketing team.
Nobody would buy a laptop with that bulk and heft today unless we're talking about these mobile workstation laptops with Xeon CPUs and Quadro GPUs.
I hope it's possible to fit a pointing stick (TrackPoint) keyboard within that 3.7mm, and that someone first- or third-party makes one. I'm keen to try replacing my ThinkPad with a Framework as soon as that's available, but not before.
Sadly I feel like trackpoints are really end of life and I wouldn't be surprised if Lenovo ditched them entirely soon. It seems they keep it only to please the tiny but vocal minority of tinkerers that we are. But we mostly buy old, second hand thinkpads. And as keyboards get thinner, trackpoints lose in quality. On linux it seems the software side is also not as good as before with libinput. So I'd be really surpris…
Pre-covid I'd made do with whatever garbage keyboard and garbage monitor $job dumped in front of me, but almost by happenstance I ended up with a 16:10 monitor and an IBM M4-1 keyboard, and surprisingly it is an enormous improvement in work environment and I'm actually somewhat more effective at $job. (And I should have known this -- I "grew up" using IBM F / M or Focus fk-2002 keyboards that these days sell for actual money on the used market; spent a decade in front of enormous tubed workstations, etc, but normalization of deviance is a real thing)
Anyhow -- perhaps with framework's more modular approach they'd be able to make a form factor with more depth in the case to allow for a "real keyboard". Or more likely I'm just asking for a manual transmission station wagon. Safety Yellow please.