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Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by londons_explore »

DustinBrett wrote: post #44
londons_explore wrote: post #33

Does this functionality provide more than one can build with the GPT-4 API? Could I get the same by just making my prompt "You are a computer and can run the following tools to help you answer the users question: run_python('program'), google_search('query')". Other people have done this already, for example [1] [1]: https://vgel.me/posts/tools-not-needed/

The docs are live, it looks like it can do a lot more than the basic API. https://platform.openai.com/docs/plugins/introduction

I'm not seeing anything there that can't be done with the basic API with tool use added - ie. you call the API, sending the users query and information and examples of available tools. The API responds saying it wishes to use a tool, and which tool it wants to use. You then do whatever the tool does (eg. some math). You then call the API again, with the previous state, plus the result of the calculations, and GPT-4 then responds with the reply to the user.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by sharemywin »

mikeknoop wrote: post #17

(Zapier cofounder) Super excited for this. Tool use for LLMs goes way beyond just search. Zapier is a launch partner here -- you can access any of the 5k+ apps / 20k+ actions on Zapier directly from within ChatGPT. We are eager to see how folks leverage this composability. Some new example capabilities are retrieving data from any app, draft and send messages/emails, and complex multi step reasoning like look up data…

Also, isn't OpenAPI going to eat your business model?

Don't get me wrong alot of platforms seem like they go bye, bye.

Hey, ChatGPT I need to sell my baseball card. Ok I see there's 30 people that have listed an interested in buying card like yours, would you like me to contact them?

20 on facebook marketplace, 9 on craiglist and some guy mentioned something about looking for one on his nest cam.

by the way remember what happened the last time you sold something on craigslist.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by lalos »

jyrkesh wrote: post #46

Everyone's been talking about how ChatGPT will disrupt search, but looking at the launch partners, I think this has the potential to completely subvert the OS / App Store layer. On some level, how much do I need an OpenTable app if I can use voice/text input and a multi-modal response that will ultimately book my reservation? Not saying mobile's going away, but this could be the thing that does to mobile what mobile…

Most (if not all) of those apps are free though, you supply them as a convenience because you know that smartphone owners spend money. The host OS loses access to that info, and that is used to target better ads in certain phone platforms.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by qbasic_forever »

yosito wrote: post #59

Seems like someone already wrote an HN plugin. More than one enthusiastic comment per minute on this thread and it was just posted half an hour ago. Plus HN is filled with enthusiasm about ChatGPT today. Seems sus.

It's really over the top hype the likes of which we haven't seen since self driving, blockchain/bitcoin, etc. I suspect in a year there will be some interesting uses of LLMs but all of the 'this changes EVERYTHING' pie in the sky thinking will be back down to earth.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by CrypticShift »

This goes in line with the “Open” in OpenAI. However, this is a "controlled" sort of openness, and the problem of trust with their receding "real" openness does not encourage me to engage with this ecosystem.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by modeless »

jyrkesh wrote: post #46

Everyone's been talking about how ChatGPT will disrupt search, but looking at the launch partners, I think this has the potential to completely subvert the OS / App Store layer. On some level, how much do I need an OpenTable app if I can use voice/text input and a multi-modal response that will ultimately book my reservation? Not saying mobile's going away, but this could be the thing that does to mobile what mobile…

We have reached "peak UI". In the future we're not going to need every service to build four different versions of their app for every major platform. They can just build a barebones web app and the AI will use it for you, you'll never have to even see it.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by londons_explore »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #69
londons_explore wrote: post #33

Does this functionality provide more than one can build with the GPT-4 API? Could I get the same by just making my prompt "You are a computer and can run the following tools to help you answer the users question: run_python('program'), google_search('query')". Other people have done this already, for example [1] [1]: https://vgel.me/posts/tools-not-needed/

GPT and LLMs don't run code, even when you tell them to run something. They hallucinate an answer they think would be the result of running the code. Presumably these plugins will allow limited and controlled interaction with partner services.

See the link in my post. It asks you to run the tool. You run the tool and tell it the result... And then it uses the result of the tool to decide to reply to the user.

The link talks about tools that 'lie' - ie. a calculator which deliberately tries to trick GPT-4 into giving the wrong answer. It turns out that GPT-4 only trusts the tools to a certain extent - if the answer the tool gives is too unbelievable, then GPT-4 will either re-run the tool or give a hallucinated answer instead.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by Karrot_Kream »

celestialcheese wrote: post #39

This is a big deal for openai. Been working with homegrown toolkits and langchain, the open source version of this, for a number of months and the ability to call out to vectorstores, serpapis, etc, and chaining together generations and data-retrieval really unlocks the power of the LLMs. That being said, I'd never build anything dependent on these plugins. OpenAI and their models rule the day today, but who knows wh…

LangChain can probably just call out to the new ChatGPT plugins. It's already very modular.
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