How's the keyboard on Frameworks? (Subjectively)
Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more
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Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more
#72Every time Framework is brought up, there's a chorus of people saying they won't buy until they release an AMD edition, and as one of them this is great to see. Edit: Also the input deck and the ability to attach an egpu as well as upgrade to a newer egpu in the future are huge. This is a fantastic leap forward for Framework.
I’m one of the chorus. I actually preordered a TOTL Asus Zephyrus Duo about a month ago, and it came in last week. It’s been a dream so far — 16 real cores of AMD 7945HX, laptop 4090, hybrid graphics, two real screens! Main display is a quite color-accurate 16:10 miniled with 240hz freesync, lower display is a high-PPI IPS touch panel, dual raid-able M2 slots (I put in dual WD SN850Xs in raid0 and that’s showing ~14.5GB/s reads and ~13Gb/s writes in CrystalDiskMark), decent sound and webcam, keyboard is at the bottom edge…the only downsides are the touchpad size is a bit strange (portrait orientation) and the click on it doesn’t feel quite Macbook nice, no USB4, and the power brick is very brick-like, with a thick cable that doesn’t flex very well. Cooling is excellent due to the intake fans under the second screen combined with the lower heat output of the AMD chip, allowing it to run maxed out without throttling…they did this right. I can’t get Pop_OS to install yet, guessing it might need the AMD raid driver like Windows did, requires further investigation.
Anyway, excited for a Framework version too! While I prefer AMD integrated graphics to Intel, NVidia dGPU would be even better, and even better still if it was upgradable. Are laptop GPUs still available on MXM cards?
Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more
#73Seems to be down or slow. Do we have an option to add a keyboard with a Trackpoint?
I don’t think so (not mentioned during the talk, so probably not), but the input system is being opened up (with both hardware specs and some their keyboard software released), so it should be possible for a third party to do that.
Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more
#74I’m happy to answer questions that everyone has about what we announced! It may be a little while until I’m able to jump back on though.
Hey Nirav, thanks so much for the progress you and your team have done! Just had a question if there's been some benchmarking done for Linux on the new AMD and Intel mainboards.
Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more
#75Whoa. AMD has been a big, big ask for a long time. This is very welcome.
Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more
#76Every time Framework is brought up, there's a chorus of people saying they won't buy until they release an AMD edition, and as one of them this is great to see. Edit: Also the input deck and the ability to attach an egpu as well as upgrade to a newer egpu in the future are huge. This is a fantastic leap forward for Framework.
Or some arbitrary AI accelerator! Jim Keller should make a Tenstorrent board. They already want to make desktop cards, and that would be a great way to market them.
IIRC Jim Keller is now working on a Atomic Semi (new semiconductor fab startup) with Sam Zeloof, so he's probably not at Tenstorrent anymore?
Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more
#77Website has immediately collapsed, but the full announcement video is on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccpsyRipHlk
Regular reminder to cache the crap out of your marketing website and to put a CDN in front of it.
This. Cloudflare is dead simple to set up, but curling your own site and setting up a redirect to a cached version of your pages is also trivial for anyone who can competently operate nginx / apache.
Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
They even said they had beefed up their servers to meet demand. I guess they need to add even more servers.
I wonder what exact tech stack are they using for the website? It genuinely seems to me that this kind of a website should be able to handle this level of traffic on a single $10/month VPS, nevermind require multiple servers. But I'm probably just out of touch with how modern webdev is done.
Especially if they’re fronting it with a CDN. The only things they should be hitting a DB for would be order process stuff and account mgmt.
Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more
#79I’m happy to answer questions that everyone has about what we announced! It may be a little while until I’m able to jump back on though.
Will the 16 have an AMD option at launch? This isn't clear to me yet.
Already pre-ordered the AMD 13 but might hold off if it's available on the larger version.
Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more
#80Seems to be down or slow. Do we have an option to add a keyboard with a Trackpoint?
I would probably switch after decades of thinkpads (and one Mac I just didn't like) if they offered a model with AMD chip, a good keyboard, Trackpoint, and OLED display.