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Re: German monks create first powdered beer

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As a former newspaper photographer, I just want to say that I really dislike the use of an AI generated image for this story. Good images would have been a photo of the people or the place where this happened. A photo of a traditional brewing setup. A photo of a beer delivery truck (the story mentions saving on transport costs). There’s just so many real things that could have been used instead. I don’t even mind if…

What you wrote makes a huge lot of sense. Nevertheless the picture they used probably is much more selling. It just looks tasty and makes me want to take a gulp while real story-relevant pictures you describe probably wouldn't be nearly as appetizing.

It's like the use of those delicately constructed examples of burgers and sandwiches used in restaurant commercials--it may be appetizing, but it fails to represent the reality of the product we are being sold. This is one (or more) steps further removed from reality. It's misleading, and the image captions merely reduce the severity of the deception.

Re: German monks create first powdered beer

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When I was in college, I "invented" the kegstool, which is a barstool seat top that would attach to keg shells. Got a patent, lost a bunch of money, learned a bunch. Good times. I learned a lot about beer, storage, transportation, etc.

There was a company out of Germany I thought was going to revolutionize beer distribution - Beer in Box. Basically, they de-carbonated beer, packaged it in bag in box, shipped it and had a system to re-carbonate at the tap. Kegs are incredibly expensive, heavy, don't grid/stack very efficiently, and most importantly, you need 7 of them on average to pour 1 tap (ones being filled, transit to and from, inventory and on tap). Boxes solved a bunch of problems for everyone. The beer must not taste as good. I don't know why it never caught on.

[0] https://patents.google.com/patent/US20080179935A1/en [1] https://techcrunch.com/2010/03/31/the-kegstool-a-bar-stool-m... [2] http://www.carbotek.com/beer-in-box#:~:text=Beer%2Din%2Dbox%....

Re: German monks create first powdered beer

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post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why put alcohol in there instead of being glad there's none in there and you don't need to filter it out?

If I'm drinking calories in the form of fermented grass juice -- or anything that isn't plain water -- it'd better be delivering some sort of effect having substance, be it caffeine or alcohol.

Why?

Re: German monks create first powdered beer

#75

The first sentence seems to be wrong: > A monastic brewery near Munich says... Klosterbrauerei Neuzelle (15898 Neuzelle) is near Berlin. Klosterbrauerei Andechs, however, is near Munich, but the powder is made in Neuzelle, judging from the links of other commenters.

15898 Neuzelle is an asteroid, right? Can we AI-generate a photo of it crashing into newatlas.com headquarters?

Re: German monks create first powdered beer

#76

As a former newspaper photographer, I just want to say that I really dislike the use of an AI generated image for this story. Good images would have been a photo of the people or the place where this happened. A photo of a traditional brewing setup. A photo of a beer delivery truck (the story mentions saving on transport costs). There’s just so many real things that could have been used instead. I don’t even mind if…

Yes, indeed, it's ridiculous. The shift from journalism to content made manifest.

Re: German monks create first powdered beer

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post #61

As a former newspaper photographer, I just want to say that I really dislike the use of an AI generated image for this story. Good images would have been a photo of the people or the place where this happened. A photo of a traditional brewing setup. A photo of a beer delivery truck (the story mentions saving on transport costs). There’s just so many real things that could have been used instead. I don’t even mind if…

Without your comment I would have discarded the whole article as AI generated. If the images are obviously fake, why should I trust the text?

As you'll see from other comments, it is. Mostly true, but all the details are wrong. It's pretty sad to see such a spam post on the front page.

Re: German monks create first powdered beer

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post #65

Yeah, I wonder why powdered eggs never took off... Seems like no brainer storage size wise and lifespan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powdered_eggs

For the same reason powdered milk and most other desiccated foods didn’t.

They don’t taste as good, the texture isn’t quite right and it’s too god damn depressive to eat them unless you are on an expedition to Antarctica or these days Mars…

Re: German monks create first powdered beer

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As a former newspaper photographer, I just want to say that I really dislike the use of an AI generated image for this story. Good images would have been a photo of the people or the place where this happened. A photo of a traditional brewing setup. A photo of a beer delivery truck (the story mentions saving on transport costs). There’s just so many real things that could have been used instead. I don’t even mind if…

They very clearly labeled it as AI generates and “purely speculative.” With that amount of transparency, I have no problems. It’s like a drawing.

For people who just scan the article, they aren't going to notice that its labeled as such. People subconsciously absorb a lot of information and that's what I am concerned would happen with this kind of thing.

Re: German monks create first powdered beer

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post #29

As a former newspaper photographer, I just want to say that I really dislike the use of an AI generated image for this story. Good images would have been a photo of the people or the place where this happened. A photo of a traditional brewing setup. A photo of a beer delivery truck (the story mentions saving on transport costs). There’s just so many real things that could have been used instead. I don’t even mind if…

I had the opposite impression. I thought it helped to visualise the product, brings down the cost of the article and was clearly highlighted so it's not like they were trying to hide it. For a small article like this it would seem so wasteful to send a human out to do the job.

I made very clear I am not suggesting sending a human out to do the job, so the cost argument here doesn't fly. As I said already I would be satisfied if the author used a simple google image search or wikimedia search.
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