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Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, when signing up for the waitlist, they don't ask for your Adobe account.

it's only a matter of time i'm sure. I don't think you can use any adobe product today without Adobe Creative Cloud™

There are a variety of consumer products (and Adobe Reader) that are still non-subscription. There also subsets of Creative Cloud. But, yes, this will presumably be part of their subscriptions at some point.

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

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I found the little sketch-to-vector-variations part interesting and surprising- this is something that is solidly not done via a diffusion model unlike everything else shown. Although I note it says "We plan to build this into Firefly" implying that... this isn't something already finished.

I’m intrigued as well, but especially with regards to how it would perform in the real world given that I’ve also observed that diffusion models aren’t great with vectors.

I suspect the example they used might have been cherry-picked

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What I love about this AI generative art is it will finally put the right price on computer generated art: $0. It will be interesting to watch the entire Hollywood and associated creative industries lose control to AI. Entire movies will be created in small basements. Same with AAA video games.

Creative people are paid to be creative, not enter keyboard shortcuts all day. It’s the idea and vision that are the real differentiator.

Kids at street corners have idea and vision, no shortage in that. What matters is putting together idea and vision with execution. And for anything that is beyond basement scope, execution further subdivides into craft and access. Access to the means, and that is true for Hollywood as much as it is true for the smallest-time painter who might not be good at making friends with gallerists. The outliers are those that learn the craft, network into a position of access and still retain some trace of idea and vision through all of that.

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

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What this reinforces is that unlike with previous big innovations (cloud, iphone, etc), incumbents will not sit on their laurels with the AI wave. They are aggressively integrating it into their products which (1) provides a relatively cheap step function upgrade and (2) keeps the barrier high for startups to use AI as their wedge. I attribute the speed at which incumbents are integrating AI into their products to a…

I think you're missing a fundamental reason: adding AI functionality into products is simply easier. That is, these companies are largely not doing the hard part, which is creating and training these models in the first place. The examples you gave of of cloud and iPhone have both huge capital barriers to entry, and in iPhones case other phone companies just didn't have the unique design talent combination of Jobs an…

Adobe in particular, however, has been more twords the forefront of AI research. I'm pretty sure they aren't just using SD here. They might not even be using transformers at all. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35089661

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still on the fence for whether or not you should be able to opt out of training (I'm sure many artists would love to "opt out" of humans looking at their art if the human intends to, or might, copy the artists' style at some point).

Should Github Copilot be trained on private, closed-source, proprietary code?

Yes, AI should be trained on every piece of information possible. Am I allowed to become a better programmer by looking at private, (illegally leaked) closed-source, proprietary code?

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

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What this reinforces is that unlike with previous big innovations (cloud, iphone, etc), incumbents will not sit on their laurels with the AI wave. They are aggressively integrating it into their products which (1) provides a relatively cheap step function upgrade and (2) keeps the barrier high for startups to use AI as their wedge. I attribute the speed at which incumbents are integrating AI into their products to a…

> * Whereas AI was a hand-wavey marketing term in the past, it's now the real deal and provides actual value to the end user. Ehhh.... Sometimes. It's still a hand-wavey marketing term today. Almost every sales call I'm in either the prospect is asking about AI, or more likely the vendor is saying something like "We use our AI module to help you [do some function not at all related to AI]". Also, even when it's "real…

Like a toothbrush with “AI” that tells you when you’ve brushed enough

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

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post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should Github Copilot be trained on private, closed-source, proprietary code?

Yes, AI should be trained on every piece of information possible. Am I allowed to become a better programmer by looking at private, (illegally leaked) closed-source, proprietary code?

You're obviously not

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

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What I love about this AI generative art is it will finally put the right price on computer generated art: $0. It will be interesting to watch the entire Hollywood and associated creative industries lose control to AI. Entire movies will be created in small basements. Same with AAA video games.

I personally find it infuriating that the jobs we're closest to automating right now are the ones that we dreamed of doing as youths. Who dreamed of cleaning bathrooms or flipping burgers? Too bad, that's still done by manual humans. But who dreamed of being an artist or a writer? Great, we've figured out how to replace you with a generative algorithm!

Not just dreamed of doing as youths, they are also exactly the jobs that AI positivists promised we would be doing instead when robots took away all the boring "make rent" crap.

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

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Generative AI with ClipSeg/ControlNet is the main way to make Adobe products obsolete. No wonder they are pushing it into production ASAP but their investments to advanced tools they had edge over competition like e.g. intelligent background filling can be easily replicated/overcome now. We might see a quick commoditization of Adobe image processing tools.
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