Live data from Hacker News

Twitch.tv Lays of 400 Employees

blog.twitch.tv

71–80 of 240 posts

Re: Twitch.tv Lays of 400 Employees

#71
post #11
post #3

> Like many companies, our business has been impacted by the current macroeconomic environment I must be living under a rock because, outside big tech self-inflicted wounds, I don't know what they are talking about. Is it Ukraine? SVB? Chinese housing market?

Federal reserve interest rates. When interest rates are low, money flows more freely. When interests rates are up, it's harder to lend/borrow, money flows less freely, and the economy cinches up as a whole. This is a major simplification to a very complex system, but it happens because e.g. as someone with money, you'd rather just put it into a government bond that will for sure pay you 4%, rather than chasing specul…

How does the fed rates impact game streaming revenue? Were they not profitable?

Re: Twitch.tv Lays of 400 Employees

#73

> Like many companies, our business has been impacted by the current macroeconomic environment, and user and revenue growth has not kept pace with our expectations. In order to run our business sustainably, we’ve made the very difficult decision to shrink the size of our workforce. Let's just take a moment to admire this paragraph. > "our business has been impacted by the current macroeconomic environment" There's th…

Well, a company doesn't exist to just be profitable. But to maximize profits (mostly). So it's certainly possible that cutting costs - even when profitable - can increase short-term and long-term profitability.

I believe it short term. I’m not sure I’ve seen a large convincing example of it NOT causing a PR/customer/staff retention issue long term.

Re: Twitch.tv Lays of 400 Employees

#74
post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

Bad take, moving to a new fund to maximise profits doesn’t cost anyone a job, neither does moving to a higher cashback credit card.

It does, when multiplied by 1000000. Similar to the people saying my vote doesn't matter.

Re: Twitch.tv Lays of 400 Employees

#75

> Like many companies, our business has been impacted by the current macroeconomic environment, and user and revenue growth has not kept pace with our expectations. In order to run our business sustainably, we’ve made the very difficult decision to shrink the size of our workforce. Let's just take a moment to admire this paragraph. > "our business has been impacted by the current macroeconomic environment" There's th…

You would also be angry if they wrote "we fired our 400 worst employees because we decided they're not worth their salaries" which also happens to be exactly true. Up there with anti-whiteboard-interview screeds, the critique-the-tone-of-a-layoff-post comment is a mainstay of the hacker news comment thread: as tiresome as it is uninteresting.

So what does that make a meta post twice over?

Re: Twitch.tv Lays of 400 Employees

#76
post #33
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/GOOG/alphabet/reve... https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/META/meta-platform... Is it?

uh yeah it literally is? click into your own links? Google has their 3rd worst quarter for YoY Quarterly growth out of the last 12 years. Facebook has 3 consecutive quarters of negative yoy growth

So, Google still grew, and I’m not convinced the performance of Facebook says anything except that people are tieing of Facebook (and techbros like Zuckerberg)

Re: Twitch.tv Lays of 400 Employees

#77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

Lots of false equivalence here. > What cash back do you get on your credit card? 2.625%? High yield savings account? Money market fund? 4.6%? None of these actions by me directly result in the loss of livelihood or uprooting of lives of other people. If you told me that by moving my money to a high yield savings account, it would result in my friends or family members losing their jobs, you bet your ass I wouldn't do…

[deleted]

Re: Twitch.tv Lays of 400 Employees

#78
post #71
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Federal reserve interest rates. When interest rates are low, money flows more freely. When interests rates are up, it's harder to lend/borrow, money flows less freely, and the economy cinches up as a whole. This is a major simplification to a very complex system, but it happens because e.g. as someone with money, you'd rather just put it into a government bond that will for sure pay you 4%, rather than chasing specul…

How does the fed rates impact game streaming revenue? Were they not profitable?

businesses feeling pinched and cut down on ad spending.

Re: Twitch.tv Lays of 400 Employees

#79
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would Amazon (owner of twitch) care about that? They have tons of cash and revenues are still quite strong. AMZN isn’t looking for VC funding, they are the whale. Net income is hard to judge — yes it’s down but not only is Amazon famous for reinvesting all profits and claiming $0 of net earnings, but they’ve also been writing off a lot of one time charges for severances related to these layoffs.

Amazon needs to provide attractive returns to shareholders just like a unicorn. If you $AMZN is not up 5% YoY, then sell it and park it in a 6 month T-bill or I series bond. And as holder of $AMZN, I can tell you that they are definitely not up 5% YoY, let alone the 15% that they generally try to get to.

MYbe it’s time for them to realize there is a point where you have all of the customers, and it’s ok to be boring and just pay a dividend instead of constant growthgrowthgrowthgrowth.

Re: Twitch.tv Lays of 400 Employees

#80

> Like many companies, our business has been impacted by the current macroeconomic environment, and user and revenue growth has not kept pace with our expectations. In order to run our business sustainably, we’ve made the very difficult decision to shrink the size of our workforce. Let's just take a moment to admire this paragraph. > "our business has been impacted by the current macroeconomic environment" There's th…

I think the companies have employees to try to make more money. When things are going really well in the economy it's easy for employees to create/capture lots of value, so the companies hire lots of employees to do that. But when the economy slows down a bit, suddenly it's a lot more difficult for employees to create value, so it doesn't make sense not to reduce the number of employees.

Yup, this is basically it.

My team at work hasn't created any meaningful value in a year. We've shipped nonstop but the things were tasked to work on just don't work out or even if they are well received simply don't add up to our salaries.

Post reply on HN