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Re: GPT-4 is phenomenal at Code

#72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we'll all get more productive is all. There's a lot of projects that just weren't economical but now may become so. The bigger disruption will occur when Google, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit etc become useless from all the AI spam that's sure to overwhelm it all.

But here's the question. If these tools make existing devs 10x more productive, why bother hiring new people in the field?

My guess is that the goals for existing software projects have always been limited by how much talent could be purchased, not by vision. So unless we run out of vision, nobody is actually going to be put out of a job by this technology. We'll just shoot for bigger goals.

Re: GPT-4 is phenomenal at Code

#73

I'm waiting for copilot that has access to something like language server and instead of just suggesting immediate completions and using open tabs for context it can use LS to pull references for context, suggest file creation, adding code in non trivial places. Then add a chat interface on top. Suddenly I'm really 10x - I would pay hundreds of dollars per month for this if it worked well - it would let me handle at…

>it would let me handle at least two or three IC jobs

At that point you'll need to have at least two or three IC jobs just to survive, because wages will plummet.

Re: GPT-4 is phenomenal at Code

#74
post #14

Remember the comments about artists and creatives when DALL-E came out? I remember.

I made the case that anyone that solves problems with objectively correct solutions (programmers) would always be more at risk of AI taking their jobs than people that solve problems with subjectively correct solutions (artists, some designers).

I remember the exact opposite case being made 3 months ago. That art just needs to be good enough and all artists will starve. You need a human to be responsible for a piece if software to sue and imprison when it goes off the deep end if nothing else. Programmers aren't going anywhere.

Re: GPT-4 is phenomenal at Code

#76
I had endless trouble trying to get GPT 3 and now 4 to reverse engineer a generic function:

result1 = Func1(input1)

result2 = Func2(result1)

I want to give it result2 and have it tell me what input1 should be. It’s attempts to implement a binary search have all failed.

Other programs have been largely positive though.

Re: GPT-4 is phenomenal at Code

#77

> is phenomenal at Code Can it - attend bullshit meetings - lick my manager's boot - tell them that their ideas are good but in the masochistic, self-deprecating way they like to hear it from me in Not yet? Darn it, guess my job is safe for now.

I think it can actually do all those things reasonably well. I’d like to start getting meeting summaries that tell me my action items based on a transcript. And it can generate infinite boot-licking butt kissing if you just ask it. Generate and click send to your boss!

Re: GPT-4 is phenomenal at Code

#78

I'm waiting for copilot that has access to something like language server and instead of just suggesting immediate completions and using open tabs for context it can use LS to pull references for context, suggest file creation, adding code in non trivial places. Then add a chat interface on top. Suddenly I'm really 10x - I would pay hundreds of dollars per month for this if it worked well - it would let me handle at…

that's exactly what we're building with Control! https://twitter.com/sualehasif996/status/1635757961984221185

Any chance me, a lowly OSS Developer and Twitch Streamer of the Small Variety, could acquire access early? I would love to try using it for things like writing Mods for Games and such.

Re: GPT-4 is phenomenal at Code

#79
post #14

Remember the comments about artists and creatives when DALL-E came out? I remember.

I made the case that anyone that solves problems with objectively correct solutions (programmers) would always be more at risk of AI taking their jobs than people that solve problems with subjectively correct solutions (artists, some designers).

Programmers' solutions aren't all objective, or at least shouldn't be. Simple tasks are. In some cases people are using overly low-level tooling, creating a lot of repetitive work that the AI would do better, and they might be at risk.

Re: GPT-4 is phenomenal at Code

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post #14

Remember the comments about artists and creatives when DALL-E came out? I remember.

I'm fine with programmers being a less needed skillset, but most artists were not making any money. The vast vast majority were the proverbial starving artists getting pennies for commissions, fighting for some form of respect for generations. Completely segregated from the idea of a market based economy, completely unwilling to do anything that people actually value, completely unwilling to move away from "disciplin…

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