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Re: ChatGPT is now finding bugs in databases

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Post by brutusborn »

didericis wrote: post #51
akokanka wrote: post #2

Awesome and scary time. AI revolution 1.0 like one day we had Web 1.0?

The current AI revolution is a devolution of the web. The thesis of the web revolution was “the world is too big to be understood by any one person”. The response was “let us all contribute to a shared map to compensate” The thesis of the AI revolution is “the world seems compressible”. The response has been “let us condense and contain all the meaningful parts in a single generative pattern that can understand every…

Isn't that solved with supervised learning?

The way I see it is that internet content is used to bootstrap the models, then supervision is used to train the models without the risk of a feedback loop causing quality loss.

I'm pretty new to ML so I may be missing something.

Re: ChatGPT is now finding bugs in databases

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Post by ilaksh »

ldjkfkdsjnv wrote: post #5

Today at work I hadnt used apache spark in a long time. I needed to do some quick and dirty data analytics on large datasets. Rather than read documentation, I just put the queries i needed in english into chatGPT, and it spit out perfectly working code. The queries werent that complex, but it saved me hours googling a bunch of random spark SQL syntax. The old school way is google sends you links, and through those c…

Well.. if we are doing ChatGPT anecdotes.. today I tried to "launch" the new version of https://aidev.codes. It integrates the ChatGPT API with Stability.ai (stable diffusion) for generating images and well as Eleven Labs text-to-speech and can create and immediately host an interactive web page on a custom subdomain.

I need marketing help. Or I should just stop trying. I don't see how people are able to get posts on the home page.. I could not get any attention or comments at all or any real user engagement today. I know this is a useful system or at least worth of a tiny amount of discussion. After working on it for months there is almost no reaction.

I don't think its the website. I think its just that I probably need to buy upvotes or something. But I don't have money for marketing. I'm very bitter.

What I keep telling myself is that marketing is going to be as hard as the programming. Which I have been doing the programming for months, so I will need to do the marketing for a long time also. But I am out of money.

If this doesn't get any traction (which it seems very close to zero) I will be desperate for any kind of contract within about a week. But I don't want to give up on the idea despite the apparent lack of interest. I think the biggest thing is that I only have 100 followers on Twitter or 600 followers on the other account and those people only care about one specific domain.

I also seem to have not been able to get a single upvote on reddit. And only one very short comment.

So I am suspecting that these sites are rigged. Or I should just give up on life? Not that I would actually consider that but that's the feedback that I seem to be getting repeatedly from the world.. that my efforts aren't even worth a short comment disparaging them.

Re: ChatGPT is now finding bugs in databases

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Post by smogcutter »

kristopolous wrote: post #66
paxys wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's this internet phenomenon (common on Reddit and other such forums) where you find high-quality discussions on a variety of topics and everyone seems so clever and informative, until you come across a thread on a topic that you are actually an expert on and find that every top-voted comment is objectively incorrect. ChatGPT is essentially that but on steroids. Its primary ability is being able to sound extremel…

That's almost every reddit thread I've been involved in. Oratory prowess is way more important than accuracy. If you ever want to "lose a debate" on reddit, pick something that's counter-intuitive or widely misunderstood and use nuance and citations in your defense. You'll get cyberbullied every time - sometimes even banned from the sub.

From those examples, I think you’re maybe also running up against people generally having a low threshold for giving a stranger on the internet the benefit of the doubt.

It’s hard to be surprised that “eugenics, but the good kind, just hear me out!” and “state’s rights, but not the disingenuous lost cause kind, just hear me out!” are a tough sell with complete strangers who have no prior reason to trust you or be interested in your opinions.

Re: ChatGPT is now finding bugs in databases

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Post by tayo42 »

oceanplexian wrote: post #48
taberiand wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My hypothesis is that we will soon see the emergence of a super-human artificial intelligence, not because of some astounding breakthroughs in our understanding of intelligence, but because of irrefutable proof that humans just aren't all that complicated to surpass.

Agreed, artificial intelligence doesn’t need to turn into Skynet to be “super human”, just better than the average 85-90 IQ human.

That's funny, someone must have given these ai bots an iq test by now. I wonder how it did

Re: ChatGPT is now finding bugs in databases

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Post by ly3xqhl8g9 »

ramraj07 wrote: post #15
endisneigh wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I just cant believe how much better it made my day. Wait until how great your day will become when you’re unnecessary ;).

People are always made unnecessary. The smart ones then find other ways in which they are. Not sure how this is any different.

This one is different because it will pass the threshold of "normality".

Just as we woke up with DALL. E 2 one morning in April 2022 and with ChatGPT one morning in November 2022, one day in the future, perhaps in the next 3-5-10 years, we will wake up with some 5, 10, 100 terabytes of neural weights fully able to drive a car from a single camera under any circumstance, millions of times safer than a perfect human driver ever could.

On that day, which in my view definitely looms in the near future, ~200 million jobs will vanish instantly [1] and hundreds of millions of jobs will be gone forever a few months/years after that. For those 0.7-1.5+ billion people there will be no "alternative careers", not because they won't be able to learn or adapt, although most of them are already tired and sick, but because the system will simply no longer need them, they became not even useless, a burden.

Our current system, no matter how you call it, is socio-pathic, literally: the socius, the fellowship [2], is suffering [3]. The phase transition will come; the question is what we, whoever we are, will do: will we still hold dear the protestant work ethic [4] and believe the probably Los Angeled-invented Chinese fortune cookie message "there is no free lunch" [5] [6], or we will adhere to a metaphysics better suited for a galaxy with trillions of trillions of whatever natural resource we might ever need and enough energy even in our local star to build whatever kind of civilization we would ever want.

[1] Answered by ChatGPT: "According to the International Transport Forum (ITF), there were approximately 107 million commercial vehicles in use worldwide in 2015, which includes trucks, buses, and taxis. This suggests that there are likely many millions of people who earn a living as drivers.

Additionally, the World Bank estimates that the transportation sector, which includes driving, employs approximately 10% of the global workforce."

[2] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/socius

[3] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pathos

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protestant_Ethic_and_the_S...

[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortune_cookie

[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_ain%27t_no_such_thing_as...

Re: ChatGPT is now finding bugs in databases

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Post by doodlesdev »

ilaksh wrote: post #72
ldjkfkdsjnv wrote: post #5

Today at work I hadnt used apache spark in a long time. I needed to do some quick and dirty data analytics on large datasets. Rather than read documentation, I just put the queries i needed in english into chatGPT, and it spit out perfectly working code. The queries werent that complex, but it saved me hours googling a bunch of random spark SQL syntax. The old school way is google sends you links, and through those c…

Well.. if we are doing ChatGPT anecdotes.. today I tried to "launch" the new version of https://aidev.codes . It integrates the ChatGPT API with Stability.ai (stable diffusion) for generating images and well as Eleven Labs text-to-speech and can create and immediately host an interactive web page on a custom subdomain. I need marketing help. Or I should just stop trying. I don't see how people are able to get posts o…

Creating front ends that integrate different AI APIs is kind of over saturated, that's probably why you're not getting much attention. It's also somewhat hard to understand what's the value proposition of the website, you should focus on putting as much of that kind of information in everyone's face in the landing page, otherwise they'll just bounce. Take everything from your "Learn more" page and put it in your landing page. Simplify, condense and systematize the information in a way that makes it digestible and instantly obvious.

Also, I should note your comment is kind of off-topic, have you thought about creating a Ask HN talking about your issue? It's very possible other HNers could help you get your website and product more interesting. I would also recommend not being bitter about it, Hacker News is all about Silicon Valley and startups, the main rule for these is that 9 times out of 10 you'll fail. It's normal.

At last I should note, if you're doing things as a hobby, do them for yourself, remember to have fun and create NO expectations of what you will or will not be able to do. If you're trying to get a startup or product going, there's a reason why Y Combinator is so popular, if you truly believe in what you're building you should try getting it into an incubator.

Just my two cents.

Re: ChatGPT is now finding bugs in databases

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Post by codebje »

colechristensen wrote: post #47
jahsome wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I asked it to generate me documentation for a handful Bicep definitions and include links to the official Microsoft Docs. It generated about 50% erroneous links, but once I updated my prompt and fed it the "root" of the MS docs I wanted it to use, it was able to correct all the urls. At the time it _seemed_ like it wasn't just doing a mindless string replace, because different parts of the url changed on most of the…

These models have probably been trained on a large portion of the Internet. The training data however can be a few years old. I have noticed this when trying to get it to generate some code, it was clearly using considerably old versions.

> I have noticed this when trying to get it to generate some code, it was clearly using considerably old versions.

I have noticed the same thing when trying to use junior devs to generate some code, usually correlating with how old the most popular Stack Overflow question on the subject is.

Re: ChatGPT is now finding bugs in databases

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Post by ilaksh »

doodlesdev wrote: post #76
ilaksh wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well.. if we are doing ChatGPT anecdotes.. today I tried to "launch" the new version of https://aidev.codes . It integrates the ChatGPT API with Stability.ai (stable diffusion) for generating images and well as Eleven Labs text-to-speech and can create and immediately host an interactive web page on a custom subdomain. I need marketing help. Or I should just stop trying. I don't see how people are able to get posts o…

Creating front ends that integrate different AI APIs is kind of over saturated, that's probably why you're not getting much attention. It's also somewhat hard to understand what's the value proposition of the website, you should focus on putting as much of that kind of information in everyone's face in the landing page, otherwise they'll just bounce. Take everything from your "Learn more" page and put it in your land…

How do I get it to an incubator? I believe in it, because its 100% useful in incredibly obvious ways.

And you are basically saying that there is no such thing as bootstrapping.

And honestly I feel that this is a failure of HN not of my website.

But you still give good advice to help people by not expecting them to click a single link to get to the FAQ page.

Re: ChatGPT is now finding bugs in databases

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Post by pyuser583 »

paxys wrote: post #19
crazysim wrote: post #3

ChatGPT can't access the external internet. The example ChatGPT instruction where they "teach it" just has the user giving it a URL to their docs and ChatGPT is like "oh ok got it" (Figure 3). I'm not sure if the blog post writers are aware it's hallucinating what the JSON implementation is and hasn't actually read the documentation at all.

There's this internet phenomenon (common on Reddit and other such forums) where you find high-quality discussions on a variety of topics and everyone seems so clever and informative, until you come across a thread on a topic that you are actually an expert on and find that every top-voted comment is objectively incorrect. ChatGPT is essentially that but on steroids. Its primary ability is being able to sound extremel…

I’ve been quizzing ChatGPT about it’s knowledge of the oil industry - it has no idea what’s talking about.

For example, I ask it to simulate a discussion between a flow engineer and a geologist, and it doesn’t seem to understand they work together regularly.

Not like there’a a stack overflow for this sort of thing.

Re: ChatGPT is now finding bugs in databases

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Post by pyuser583 »

taberiand wrote: post #26
micromacrofoot wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

we’ve made the startling discovery that we’re rather predictable

My hypothesis is that we will soon see the emergence of a super-human artificial intelligence, not because of some astounding breakthroughs in our understanding of intelligence, but because of irrefutable proof that humans just aren't all that complicated to surpass.

People used to say “AI wont surpass humans, we’ll meet them in the middle.”
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