This is why I only use service A for domains. And service B for emails.
I use service A for domains, service B for DNS and service C for emails.
How do you prove to service B that you own the domain?
Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes
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Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes
#72Note: the post is deleted from mastodon. I managed to grab a screenshot earlier: https://imgur.com/a/JB4xpPs
It's still visible to me in an Incognito browser window.
Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes
#73Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes
#74What registrars has HN been using lately? I've been super lazy and use Route53 for everything right now.
Over time, I've been migrating from Gandi to Porkbun. I've been happy so far.
Might have to do the same. Been ok with paying slightly higher prices for reliability but I wouln't bet on the latter if they start pulling shit like this even if it doesn't affect me directly.
Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes
#75Even last week they were saying nothing would change, that Gandi remained independent inside Your.online. That may be a new record.
Often, and even more so in corporate PR, things are said precisely because they aren't true.
Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes
#76What registrars has HN been using lately? I've been super lazy and use Route53 for everything right now.
I love EasyDNS - not the cheapest, but the service is EXCELLENT. Over 10 years or so, I've had to call support a couple of times to setup new features, and not only do they answer the phone - but you get a real engineer!
It costs me about $40/year for domain (.org), dns, backup MX/mail spool, and a couple of other bits and pieces. It's been well worth it for the piece of mind.
Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
I use service A for domains, service B for DNS and service C for emails.
How do you prove to service B that you own the domain?
You don’t need to. Your registrar tells the registry which nameservers you’ve chosen. You specify the nameservers that belong to your DNS provider, which causes DNS clients to query that DNS provider.
There’s nothing stopping you from paying for service with a DNS provider for a domain you don’t own, but nobody will actually query those nameservers for your domain, so it doesn’t matter.
Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes
#78Not that this isn't a travesty. But it's worth pointing out that my first thought was: I need to bookmark this page to cite every time we end up in another giant front-page argument about "I don't use GMail because I don't trust Google; I have my own domain with some tiny provider with human support where this can never happen." Meh. The specifics here seem pretty damning, though. Most likely the new owners just didn…
> I need to bookmark this page to cite every time we end up in another giant front-page argument about "I don't use GMail because I don't trust Google; I have my own domain with some tiny provider with human support where this can never happen."
This is about them changing the pricing of their service. The part about doing it to customers who have paid in advance may be fraud, but it's still miles better then google randomly locking you out of your account without recourse. You don't have to use Gandi for your email (why would you even except for it being "free" which you now have learned it is not) and you can transfer your domain to another registrar.
Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes
#79So who's the trustworthy, low-bullshit registrar now? I've been using Gandi for over a decade.
I personally use Namecheap and Name.com for a few other domains. My rule of thumb is domain registrars only get to manage my domains. Registrars love to upsell you on email and hosting but in my experience that's where all the bullshit starts. If you just buy a domain , you could go to place like GoDaddy and probably have a decent experience. EDIT: Just like I said, in the original thread they are talking about Ghand…
If you search on hacker news there are some people including me who have bad experiences with namecheap, as they threaten to cut off domain itself easily when they get complaints. I am not talking about hosting, but the domain itself.
For any large enterprise client, I recommend against using them.
Right now, I am on Gandi and only use them for domain, even reading this I'd still pick them over namecheap.
Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes
#80It sound like they’re hosting at the same place (gandi) where they registered the domain. This is absolutely never recommended, for security purposes. If someone gains access to your hosting account you’ll likely lose all your domain names. Transfer the domains over to a better more secure registrar. Then set up a server or vps and set up as many mailboxes or emails that you need.
Is there any indication that Gandi is insecure?
Not that I know of, it’s just good practice to separate services like this (even if it can be more expensive and logistically difficult).