This is not the story.
The story is Roe v. Wade overturned due to heinous corruption of the US political process in favour of the religious right and free market libertarians.
Facebook and Google hand over user data, help police prosecute abortion seekers
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
> comply with the law What concerns you about this?
Because they are good laws and bas laws, so some requests shouldn't be given in too easily.
Right, which is your second point about the law existing being the concern.
Companies are simply enforcing the law, right or wrong.
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#75The framing is inflammatory. What most people can agree upon is that the surveillance state is out of control. I'm sure I'll be flamed into oblivion here, but it is worth considering the headline from the perspective of the anti-abortionists. If we cannot empathize or attempt to understand those who disagree, what is the point of having a discussion? "FB and Google hand over user data, help to prosecute baby killers"…
I've often been puzzled by why the abortion argument is seen as a binary. The majority of people in the developed world feel that the abortion legality line should be somewhere between conception and birth. Honestly, based on my somewhat biased sampling, there's probably a similar number of people who think infanticide should sometimes be legal as people who think a single fertilized egg has a right to life.
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#76Is this real? This sounds like a weird trip back into medieval times. Who is the head of that modern Inquisition?
What sounds like a trip into medieval times? Government control over corporations? Corporation oversight over private lives? Isn’t that what the new generation of enlightened and progressive people wanted?
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#77Those who have nothing to hide have nothing to fear. Unless they change the laws and suddenly you have something to hide.
I remember when Schmidt came out with this line thinking the same thing.
But back then it seemed like a distant and improbable scenario - I objected to his statement more on point of principle than out of any realistic sense that it was things were going to get that bad in the near future.
Turns out they did.
(before anyone says it - yeah. Back then there were probably already enough examples of law enforcement overreach - not to mention the decades-long injustice of the "war on drugs". I need to learn to be more cynical)
Re: Facebook and Google hand over user data, help police prosecute abortion seekers
#78This is not the story. The story is Roe v. Wade overturned due to heinous corruption of the US political process in favour of the religious right and free market libertarians.
Roe v. Wade was a corruption of the political progress (and I say this as a non-american pro-abortionist). If you want to have a law on abortion make an actual law.
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#80The framing is inflammatory. What most people can agree upon is that the surveillance state is out of control. I'm sure I'll be flamed into oblivion here, but it is worth considering the headline from the perspective of the anti-abortionists. If we cannot empathize or attempt to understand those who disagree, what is the point of having a discussion? "FB and Google hand over user data, help to prosecute baby killers"…
If you would have read the article to the end you would have noticed that is puts the blame on law enforcement and legislation.